Football Talk 2006/2007 Season - Page 121

iadom · 04-04-2007, 11:46

Terrific performance by Liverpool last night, mind you PSV were awful, they must have played some real c**p teams to get this far.

Jim.

TheDaddy · 04-04-2007, 15:14

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has rubbished Valencia's complaints that the away dressing room at Stamford Bridge is a "rat-hole" with only one mirror and three showers. He says it has two mirrors and 10 showers. (Daily Star)

Notice he didn't dispute the 'rat hole' claims though

05-04-2007, 00:36

Roma 2-1 Man Utd

United were up against it for an hour and held out quite well without that wonderful tackler Scholes.

One goal is all that is required at OT to go through.

I have a feeling in the return leg that Roma's formation will be 5-4-1.............It could be one of those frustrating games AGAIN

TheBlueRaja · 05-04-2007, 09:05

See English football fans were at it again last night - disgraceful.

I think its about time UEFA stepped in with another ban on travelling fans or better yet a ban on English clubs in Europe for a year or two until they get the message (again).

Good result though.

gazzae · 05-04-2007, 09:10

hahaha You're such a troll!

sherer · 05-04-2007, 09:43

well once again VDS punches the ball out to the other team and they score .. he did the same against Reading but then we was 4-0 up so it didn't matter this time it did

all season he hasn't known whether to come off his line or not and he starts to come then stops and he never tells Rio and Vidic what is going on behind and in front of them like a good goalkeeper should.. he past his best and flaps at things and punches and it looking too old

TheBlueRaja · 05-04-2007, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae

hahaha You're such a troll!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6528605.stm

Quote:

Uefa has launched an investigation after crowd violence erupted during Wednesday's Champions League tie between Roma and Manchester United.

Riot police charged at United fans at the Stadio Olimpico as both sets of supporters threw missiles.

Nuff said.

TheDaddy · 05-04-2007, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Nuff said.

Not really, your own article says both sets of supporters threw missiles, I don't remember seeing any pictures of Italian fans being battered, might just be that Man U were right about travelling there.

Wonder why you weren't calling for Italian fans to be thrown out of Europe

gazzae · 05-04-2007, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6528605.stm

Nuff said.

So why did you original post only mention English fans?

I'm not stupid enough to think the blame lies with only one set of fans.

You have to ask why when the offence was commited by both sets of fans the police only enforced the law on the english fans?

sherer · 05-04-2007, 11:10

well seeing as Roma launched an unprovaked attacked on some fans before the game and stabbed people surely they should be banned from Europe.. they also stabbed Boro fans last year too

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...039789,00.html

maybe people should get all the facts before posting about whether teams should be fined and banned

even as a Man U fan I don't really know what happened and neither to UEFA and the Rome Police yet they are still investigating and checking the TV footage etc

gazzae · 05-04-2007, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer

well once again VDS punches the ball out to the other team and they score .. he did the same against Reading but then we was 4-0 up so it didn't matter this time it did

all season he hasn't known whether to come off his line or not and he starts to come then stops and he never tells Rio and Vidic what is going on behind and in front of them like a good goalkeeper should.. he past his best and flaps at things and punches and it looking too old

If you ask me Van Der Sar has won us more games with superb goalkeeping than he's cost us with the odd error.

What about his save from Crouch against Liverpool.

TheBlueRaja · 05-04-2007, 12:32

I never said anything about the Italian support as we all know what they are like and some of you have already posted about what should happen to that lot.

Besides, this being the UK the behaviour of the English shows up all the home nations and its my right to complain about it and request something is done.

Why is it that when English fans go abroad they always seem to get into trouble. Its always the other team / the police / any other reason you can pull out the hat, never ever the fault of the travelling support.

sherer · 05-04-2007, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae

If you ask me Van Der Sar has won us more games with superb goalkeeping than he's cost us with the odd error.

What about his save from Crouch against Liverpool.

I don't believe he's made any saves that Kuschzak or Foster wouldn't have saved but he has made several errors that they wouldn't.. just watch him on crosses and corners and he's no idea whether to come or not

sure he made some saves against Fulhum but when they hit the post where was he.. standing there watching. when they had a chance for a goal at the far post and Brown did enough to put the FUlham bloke off.. where was in .. in totally the wrong place

sure he won a lot in the past but that's the point that's in his past at an team other than Man U he would have let in loads of goals it's just with Rio and Vidic his errors aren't picked up as much until last night.. take the Reading goal he gave them if that game was 0-0 at the time we would have lost it

gazzae · 05-04-2007, 13:16

Top 5 Goalkeepers
As at: Tue 03 Apr 07 09:35

Name Index Score Overall Index Rank Team
1 edwin van der sar 406 17 Manchester United
2 marcus hahnemann 401 20 Reading
3 david james 393 23 Portsmouth
4 jose reina 392 24 Liverpool
5 tim howard 385 26 Everton

Actim Index

How accurate is the Actim Index?

The calculations are based on the four key factors that contribute to a player's effectiveness and his ability to help his team win matches. The formulae were devised through analysis of hundreds of games since the start of the Premiership in 1992 and have been statistically proven to measure a player's effectiveness in winning matches.

TheDaddy · 05-04-2007, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae

Top 5 Goalkeepers
As at: Tue 03 Apr 07 09:35

Name Index Score Overall Index Rank Team
1 edwin van der sar 406 17 Manchester United
2 marcus hahnemann 401 20 Reading
3 david james 393 23 Portsmouth
4 jose reina 392 24 Liverpool
5 tim howard 385 26 Everton

Actim Index

How accurate is the Actim Index?

The calculations are based on the four key factors that contribute to a player's effectiveness and his ability to help his team win matches. The formulae were devised through analysis of hundreds of games since the start of the Premiership in 1992 and have been statistically proven to measure a player's effectiveness in winning matches.

I am not to sure how much faith I'd have in stats, David James has kept loads of clean sheets recently and yet he is third, one above Reina who Liverpool are seemingly trying to sell. I also think Sherer has a point goalkeepers from the major European countries, most do 'flap' at crosses, although if you did get rid of him, who would you get to replace him? Whilst he isn't world class anymore he is a still class above most and there seems to be a lack of top draw goal keepers at the moment