BNP loses seats

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Ezenden

I've already told you.

well please tell me again, I am genuinly all at sea here.

No, i'm saying that according to the statistics you were talking about (which were released last year), Pakistan is the most corrupt country on earth.

and since pakistan is mainly populated by pakistanis.....

Why do you keep asking "what?" when the answer is right infront of you?

please spell it out to me then, stop messing about.

Indeed they would, but thats not what i said or implied. Not all Nigerians are men by the way.

there you go nit-picking again. Please assume that I mean his/her whenever I refer to his.

I've already told you it. But i'll elaborate; for many, stereotyping, profiling and the like is alot easier to others, and much harder to swallow when its closer to home.

It's not hard to swallow, it's a fact of life. I have learnt to accept and deal with it. The fact that white males are more likely to be paedophiles (and you accept this) should open your eyes to the possibility that black male Nigerians (for instance) are more likely to commit fraud.

Find me evidence of the hypocrisy you claim i have.

Do you accept that Germans drink lots of beer?

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

So, on the basis of that report, do you assert that all policemen are racist?

HMmmmm thats a tricky one............I wouldnt say that all POLICEMAN are racist......but i would certainly say the actual institution was racist.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Ezenden

I doubt the policeman he speaks of even exists.

So you are saying that I'm a liar?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by aliferste

HMmmmm thats a tricky one............I wouldnt say that all POLICEMAN are racist......but i would certainly say the actual institution was racist.

but I am being told that the policemans views are such because he is a racist.....which he isn't he is a really nice chap who told me about something that he encounters during the course of his job. Thats all.

[Womble]

mmm, been reading your posts, all very passionate.
Consider a few points
Ask your self why are the polices racist?. Is it because most of the grief they get comes from "minority" groups.
I had a friend who worked in Brixton nick as a civvy, the ethnics account for 1/3 of the population in Brixton but commit 87% of the crime. People stereotype-fact, live with it!.
Also, you think the white people here are racist, try visiting these eastern european countries!!, just ask the black footballers in the english team!.
Also, with immigration your missing the point, the govement are letting these people in to deliberatly force the wages of the common man down. Building sites hire Albanians etc for half as much as they pay an Englishman (Note; I am not suggesting colour here, I have black mates who call themselves English!). The BNP suck and are just preying on peoples fears, but if the mainstream politicle parties do not do something to stem the tide of new immigrants to this country then the rise of these sick extreme parties will continue!!. There is growing resentment amomg the silent majority, and unfortunatley, the BNP appears to be a voice for them. Take Croydon for example, its awash with eastern europeans, and to fund it the council have increased there council tax by 135%!!, and they wonder why there is resentment!, even the blacks in Croydon are getting edgy!.
The BNP is not the answer though

[Womble]

please excuse my many spelling and gramaticle errors

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Womble

mmm, been reading your posts, all very passionate.
Consider a few points
Ask your self why are the polices racist?. Is it because most of the grief they get comes from "minority" groups.
I had a friend who worked in Brixton nick as a civvy, the ethnics account for 1/3 of the population in Brixton but commit 87% of the crime. People stereotype-fact, live with it!.
Also, you think the white people here are racist, try visiting these eastern european countries!!, just ask the black footballers in the english team!.
Also, with immigration your missing the point, the govement are letting these people in to deliberatly force the wages of the common man down. Building sites hire Albanians etc for half as much as they pay an Englishman (Note; I am not suggesting colour here, I have black mates who call themselves English!). The BNP suck and are just preying on peoples fears, but if the mainstream politicle parties do not do something to stem the tide of new immigrants to this country then the rise of these sick extreme parties will continue!!. There is growing resentment amomg the silent majority, and unfortunatley, the BNP appears to be a voice for them. Take Croydon for example, its awash with eastern europeans, and to fund it the council have increased there council tax by 135%!!, and they wonder why there is resentment!, even the blacks in Croydon are getting edgy!.
The BNP is not the answer though

It's a messed up situation...

[Niles Crane]

well please tell me again, I am genuinly all at sea here.

As i said: My point being, would the policeman be so quick to make such abrupt comments if it affected him? - his profession is a policeman.

and since pakistan is mainly populated by pakistanis.....

Yes, and since Pakistan has a very high population and all the corruption in the statistics is based on the middle class ie those with power then the statistics dont reflect Pakistani's in general. Especially as i assume when we say "Pakistani" we're also including expatriates.

please spell it out to me then, stop messing about.

If you cant understand what it has to do with the discussion already, then no amount of spelling will help.

The fact that white males are more likely to be paedophiles

Theres no conclusive evidence to prove the above statement true.

black male Nigerians (for instance) are more likely to commit fraud.

Same as above.

You need to understand the difference:
Because Nigerians may commit more fraud, does not mean a Nigerian is any more likely to commit fraud over a Cameroonian. Being Nigerian doesnt automatically up the chance.
And because white males may commit more acts of peadophillia, does not mean a white male is any more likely to over a black male. Being white and male doesnt automatically up the chance.
That goes back to my comment before, which you couldnt comphrehend earlier.

Do you accept that Germans drink lots of beer?

Not really. Certainly no more than the average country. This is a weird example you've given..........you'd be better saying Americans or Irishmen

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Ezenden

You should have asked him which profession was most likely to eat donuts or take bribes. What would his answer have been then?

Probably the same as mine, whats your point?

And by the way, your comments are interesting (or rather, the way you worded them in order to propogate your opinion). Why would he say "Oh God yes!" unless you'd already suggested Nigerians?

I'm just saying what he said.

Secondly, you ought to spell God with a capital G.

picky, picky, picky.

Thirdly, there is no such thing as a Nigerian ethnic group.

and ...picky

Fourthly, "just ask any dss fraud investigator!" - yeah, because they just happen to be around reguarly.

I've met a few! Whats your point?

Either the cop is a stereotypical moron,

so it's allrigth to insult a policeman?

you're exaggerating and/or bull****ing totally or pigs have begun to fly (pardon the pun)......

So you are saying I'm lying?

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

So you are saying that I'm a liar?

No, i'm saying that i think you are - it doesnt mean you actually are. Theres that comphrehension thing again

[Niles Crane]

so it's allrigth to insult a policeman?

Yes, why wouldnt it be?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Ezenden

No, i'm saying that i think you are - it doesnt mean you actually are. Theres that comphrehension thing again

Picky again. You say that you think that I am a liar. So in effect you are saying that I am a liar. In addition you are taking the mick. If you have run out of decent arguments just say so.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Ezenden

Yes, why wouldnt it be?

Are you serious that it's allright to insult a policeman?

[Womble]

Just out of cusiosity, wher do you live Ezenden??

[Womble]

oops, another typo error