How stupid is the water ban

Originally Posted by rogerdraig

desalination is the key i know many will shout about cost and energy but as i see it its an excellent oppertunity for renewables from solar and tidal to produce the energy both electical and physical to run and pump the water

i refuse in a country surrounded by the stuff to limit my use of it

i rycycle and cut use of energy in my life and have ben doing so long before it was the in thing to do but this is just daft when we are an island

I think your right .Desalination plants work best with affluent countries and when built close to the sea ,the UK ticks both those boxes .The main stumbling block is the cost of the energy to run the plant .According to wiki the best that can be achieved is 49 us cents per cubic meter of water (2006)which is quite expensive but by using a renewable source such as wind power (plentiful on the coast and we already have the windfarms in place ) then that cost of desalination per cubic meter will get a lot cheaper and the more that are built the better the technology gets and the cheaper the water

[mike24]

It all depends on if you wish to run out af water?
In Hampshire no water restriction.
Michael

[rogerdraig]

i think some one said about what to do with the salt maybe we could use it we seem to dig about 57% of what we use now out of the ground here that leaves quite a lot we seem to import seem s like something that could save us importing make jobs and help the economy maybe we could even export the stuff

Originally Posted by rogerdraig

i think some one said about what to do with the salt maybe we could use it we seem to dig about 57% of what we use now out of the ground here that leaves quite a lot we seem to import seem s like something that could save us importing make jobs and help the economy maybe we could even export the stuff

There's always a demand for salt ,even if we use it on the roads in winter .

People keep saying that we some big infrastructure plans to kick start our economy ,well for the south of England a few desalination plants would be a start ,powered by offshore wind farms

[Taf]

I don't think the residents of the drought hit areas would like to have "industry" like desalination plants in their back yards... it might ruin their golf courses, riding stables and the views from the west bay windows....

If you want to increse the number of homes, etc., in an area, make sure you can service them with water, power, etc., first.

Originally Posted by Taf

I don't think the residents of the drought hit areas would like to have "industry" like desalination plants in their back yards... it might ruin their golf courses, riding stables and the views from the west bay windows....

If you want to increse the number of homes, etc., in an area, make sure you can service them with water, power, etc., first.

You are correct but the houses are there now ,what they going to do ,pull them down ?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by martyh

There's always a demand for salt ,even if we use it on the roads in winter .

People keep saying that we some big infrastructure plans to kick start our economy ,well for the south of England a few desalination plants would be a start ,powered by offshore wind farms

we have wind farms and salt water in the humber bring it on

Originally Posted by papa smurf

we have wind farms and salt water in the humber bring it on

If wind ,wave and solar power are not sufficient for national power generation because they aren't there all the time and cannot generate all the power we need ,then why not use them for something we don't need all the time ,like desalination plants .They do not need to run all the time just to top up the water supply during times of drought and then the power that they do generate when they do work can be fed into the national grid

[mertle]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17656317

Seems they moving water into lincolnshire then anglian water use it for 100,000.

Now flooding the rivers to shift water sounds bit drastic dangerious to me. The oter is it right to sell water like comodity like oil who will end up paying the 30 mill.

Bet anglian water already rubbing hands how much they make in this.

Tuesday, Severn Trent announced plans were being drawn up to supply more than 100,000 homes in the worst-hit areas. It aims to sell 30 million litres of water a day to Anglian Water, one of the seven companies that imposed a hosepipe ban at the beginning of April to help ease the shortage.
Pumping from boreholes, Severn Trent plans to flow water from sources beneath Birmingham into the River Tame, which joins the Trent.
'Extreme circumstances' The water will then flow to Gainsborough, Lincs, where Anglian Water will take it up.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The River Thames in London has the biggest source of water going, and l know for a fact that it is used by Thames Water into there reservoirs.
The UK is surrounded by water, but the government wont invest in having these special plants to sort out the contents of it, yet waste million of pounds on ruining the landscapes and coastal parts of Britain with these ugly wind sites that are a waste of money, but cost millions to build.
When l go to Norfolk, l can see the wonderful sites at Scratby ruined by these ugly things.
And we have this Water problem everytime there is a drought.

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

The River Thames in London has the biggest source of water going, and l know for a fact that it is used by Thames Water into there reservoirs.
The UK is surrounded by water, but the government wont invest in having these special plants to sort out the contents of it, yet waste million of pounds on ruining the landscapes and coastal parts of Britain with these ugly wind sites that are a waste of money, but cost millions to build.
When l go to Norfolk, l can see the wonderful sites at Scratby ruined by these ugly things.
And we have this Water problem everytime there is a drought.

aha scroby sands where the seals live. lovely area is norfolk although they have become tourist attraction.

problem is desalination costs to our carbon footprint which always felt is bit world sham this carbon footprint.

They expensive to run but do think we should plow money into R&D into improving it.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Good point mertle, But what l think a problem is that these wind sites are an ugly sight on the landscape, and ruin the countryside, and cost millions of pounds to build, and probably are not built in this country.

When l first started going to Scratby, it was beautiful, but now all you can see are these damn things. When yo look out to sea,. instead of ships, you see this horrible things.

This country can invest ion this unit to clean water, AND if we are drinking water from the Thames, where does the Thames lead to the SEA, so surely we can clean this water several times before it reaches homes.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This country can invest ion this unit to clean water, AND if we are drinking water from the Thames, where does the Thames lead to the SEA, so surely we can clean this water several times before it reaches homes.

you like this http://www.thameswater.co.uk/cps/rde....xsl/10279.htm

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Good point mertle, But what l think a problem is that these wind sites are an ugly sight on the landscape, and ruin the countryside, and cost millions of pounds to build, and probably are not built in this country.

When l first started going to Scratby, it was beautiful, but now all you can see are these damn things. When yo look out to sea,. instead of ships, you see this horrible things.

This country can invest ion this unit to clean water, AND if we are drinking water from the Thames, where does the Thames lead to the SEA, so surely we can clean this water several times before it reaches homes.

Are you one of the "I want clean energy, but don't want wind turbines to spoil my view" brigade?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Lets put it this way, l am always looking for new ways of energy, but would not like to wake up in the morning and see one of those wind turbines near my house.

Can you imagine you trying to sleep at night and having that 'wirring noise' coming from the blades - and please don't members say the baldes don't make a noise.

I would be much better people getting those solar panels fitted to your house, and then you sell on the power that you don't need to the utility companies, and l see more of them now than anything else.