Gay couple claim they were ejected from pub for kissing

http://www.timeout.com/london/gay/ this link is interesting no rude content. Even this site differentiates between Gay and lesbian

earlier in the thread kymmy mentioned how stats were made up grouping homosexuals and bisexuals as Gay but the scene itself in part seems to seperate Gay and Lesbian so how does that all work??

Obviously a terminology/semantic issue - I have gay friends, both men and women, and that is their preferred term (holistic rather than differential).

YMMV.

(anyhoo, we appear to be drifting somewhat from the topic...)

I just find it confusing

[Arthurgray50@blu]

As far as l am aware the Landlord of a Public house is the boss and his or her rules apply, or is everyone under the impression that wether straight or gay you can walk into any pub and do what you want - l don't think so.

[the_neurotic_cat]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

As far as l am aware the Landlord of a Public house is the boss and his or her rules apply, or is everyone under the impression that wether straight or gay you can walk into any pub and do what you want - l don't think so.

They can't impose rules that go against the law.

Oh I've just checked ... I don't think it is illegal to discriminate against customers on grounds of sexual orientation.

[Welshchris]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

As far as l am aware the Landlord of a Public house is the boss and his or her rules apply, or is everyone under the impression that wether straight or gay you can walk into any pub and do what you want - l don't think so.

when were u born the 1800s?

Originally Posted by Welshchris

when were u born the 1800s?

Arthur is correct, up to a point. The landlord can kick anyone out of his pub and he doesn't have to give a reason.

Mind you, if he does give a reason, that reason can't be one that would breach a law such as the Equality Act, but he is certainly well within his rights to decide he wants no snogging in his pub and to act accordingly.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I was born in 1951, and a Landlord has a duty under the licensing act to fulfil a duty which protects the paying customer, he also has a duty that IF anyone cuases a problem inside the pub, he can eject that person or persons. And if nessersary call the police to enforce it. He can also bar a customer, and that is well within his rights as a pub landlord.

[Welshchris]

Originally Posted by Chris

Arthur is correct, up to a point. The landlord can kick anyone out of his pub and he doesn't have to give a reason.

Mind you, if he does give a reason, that reason can't be one that would breach a law such as the Equality Act, but he is certainly well within his rights to decide he wants no snogging in his pub and to act accordingly.

yes i understand they can kick someone out of the pub, but if its for an obvious reason of discrimination then they are well up the creek.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I was born in 1951, and a Landlord has a duty under the licensing act to fulfil a duty which protects the paying customer, he also has a duty that IF anyone cuases a problem inside the pub, he can eject that person or persons. And if nessersary call the police to enforce it. He can also bar a customer, and that is well within his rights as a pub landlord.

u dont have to tell me, i know only to well :-)

[Arthurgray50@blu]

In my life time l have worked in many pubs and bars etc, and what the landlord say's goes.

They have to abide by licensing laws, but at the end of the day, if the landlord doesn't like it, or something is upsetting his punters, then he will act, as at the end of the day, it his him or her that will lose out.

It "only goes" if it doesn't break the law (and not just the licencing laws, but also the laws of the land), Arthur - do try to keep up.

In my long distant courting days I was ejected from a pub for kissing..I didn't take it as an insult..I just laughed and moved onto the next pub.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

In my long distant courting days I was ejected from a pub for kissing..I didn't take it as an insult..I just laughed and moved onto the next pub.

That was a while ago though Maggy back when people had a skin, didn't take offence at anything and everything and weren't obsessed with their rights but just got on with living and shrugged things off rather than litigating.

Ah I miss those times, weren't that long ago

Ah, we* all miss the days when casual sexism, racism, and homophobia were the order of the day, and people (working class scruffs and parvenu grammar school oiks) knew their place and didn't get "uppity".....

*actually, I don't.

[Ignitionnet]

Not really what I said Hugh but instead taking things to the extreme.

But yes I do miss some aspects of those times, people seem to spend far too much time whining because they feel besmirched now to actually live.

OK perhaps besmirched isn't the right word given how many people don't have the word in their vocabulary. Exercising their right to be uneducated morons innit.

Bull said he was putting on his coat to leave and had given Williams "a peck on the lips" when the woman, who was wearing a staff uniform, came up to them.

So they were ejected from a pub which they were leaving anyway and of course people jump on the bandwagon and feel besmirched on their behalf, who cares about what actually happened someone's rights are being brutally crushed by facism oh my God protest!!!!!

Incidentally the guy who complained about them said http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory/...-fondling.aspx

A bystander said:

While the management at the John Snow were unimpressed by Williams and Bull's embraces – which one bystander told the Guardian amounted to "snogging, but it wasn't heavy petting"

But hey, claiming to have been asked to leave for a 'peck on the lips' got them in the paper and got them loads of support from the online community, evidently tiring of protesting against government cuts and needing something else to occupy their time and keep their sense of offence flowing. All good.

EDIT:

Bull, who said he was physically sick after the confrontation, called police when he got home.

No wonder he's a charity volunteer, the stress of the real world is clearly a bit much for his tender constitution. There's no mention of him being physically accosted he apparently vomited over someone being nasty to him.

The rest of us somehow managed to cope with this since nursery, possibly earlier depending on our parents.