This one's going down

Originally Posted by chaos23

I see Police speeding without their Blue lights on a weekly basis. They think they are above the law.

You think they think they are above the law - a different thing altogether.

If you had said "some police think they are above the law", you may have gained more agreement (imho).

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Moldova

Lets hope our so called "Qualified Police Driver" gets a sentence fitting to the horrendous crime he committed

He'll spend time in prison which, for a Police officer, is an exceptionally difficult place to be. He'll lose his job, probably a big chunk of his pension and his license. He'll have to pass an extended test once his disqualification expires.

His life has been ruined for doing the job he chose to do. He wasn't some yahoo screaming around at speed in a motor for a laugh. He was a highly trained driver reacting to what he believed was an ongoing crime and because of choices he made he will have to live with the death of an innocent girl for evermore.

But hey you've got your pound of flesh and seem happy about it. Another boot into the Police from the usual suspects who always are quick to moan and complain.

I just hope you never need the Police to drive quickly to help you.

Originally Posted by chaos23

I see Police speeding without their Blue lights on a weekly basis. They think they are above the law.

Is that in their cars or the unmarked black helicopters?

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Derek S

He'll spend time in prison which, for a Police officer, is an exceptionally difficult place to be. He'll lose his job, probably a big chunk of his pension and his license. He'll have to pass an extended test once his disqualification expires.

His life has been ruined for doing the job he chose to do. He wasn't some yahoo screaming around at speed in a motor for a laugh. He was a highly trained driver reacting to what he believed was an ongoing crime and because of choices he made he will have to live with the death of an innocent girl for evermore.

But hey you've got your pound of flesh and seem happy about it. Another boot into the Police from the usual suspects who always are quick to moan and complain.

I just hope you never need the Police to drive quickly to help you.



Is that in their cars or the unmarked black helicopters?

most cant read either as i cant remember either of us saying he wasnt guilty. as far as i can remember ( my posts are there to read ) we just gave reasons why this is sometimes done and how to avoid getting run down

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Derek S

He'll spend time in prison which, for a Police officer, is an exceptionally difficult place to be. He'll lose his job, probably a big chunk of his pension and his license. He'll have to pass an extended test once his disqualification expires.

His life has been ruined for doing the job he chose to do. He wasn't some yahoo screaming around at speed in a motor for a laugh. He was a highly trained driver reacting to what he believed was an ongoing crime and because of choices he made he will have to live with the death of an innocent girl for evermore.

Do you think he didn't deserve to lose his job?
I'd say as a Police Officer and the fact that he's been found guilty, there's no choice for the police themselves to take his job off him.
You have to see it from the publics view.

He said that by the time he turned round to follow the car he couldn't see the car so put his foot down believing the driver was trying to get away from him. that was after he said before he didn't want to alert it.

If he thought that it was trying to get away, there was no reason to go into stealth mode. I think he helped to convict himself in a way.

Just been on the news, looks like he's going to jail.

[soicky]

Originally Posted by Nidge

Just been on the news, looks like he's going to jail.

Worst place for a police offer.

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

You think they think they are above the law - a different thing altogether.

If you had said "some police think they are above the law", you may have gained more agreement (imho).

I am not looking for your agreement.

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Originally Posted by Derek S

He'll spend time in prison which, for a Police officer, is an exceptionally difficult place to be. He'll lose his job, probably a big chunk of his pension and his license. He'll have to pass an extended test once his disqualification expires.

His life has been ruined for doing the job he chose to do. He wasn't some yahoo screaming around at speed in a motor for a laugh. He was a highly trained driver reacting to what he believed was an ongoing crime and because of choices he made he will have to live with the death of an innocent girl for evermore.

But hey you've got your pound of flesh and seem happy about it. Another boot into the Police from the usual suspects who always are quick to moan and complain.

I just hope you never need the Police to drive quickly to help you.



Is that in their cars or the unmarked black helicopters?

No their cars.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Derek S

He'll spend time in prison which, for a Police officer, is an exceptionally difficult place to be. He'll lose his job, probably a big chunk of his pension and his license. He'll have to pass an extended test once his disqualification expires.

His life has been ruined for doing the job he chose to do. He wasn't some yahoo screaming around at speed in a motor for a laugh. He was a highly trained driver reacting to what he believed was an ongoing crime and because of choices he made he will have to live with the death of an innocent girl for evermore.

But hey you've got your pound of flesh and seem happy about it. Another boot into the Police from the usual suspects who always are quick to moan and complain.

I just hope you never need the Police to drive quickly to help you.



Is that in their cars or the unmarked black helicopters?

Derek I have no problems at all with Police doing their correctly but this officer did not do his job properly by any stretch of the imagination and in doing so Hayley the real victim in this tragedy lost her life and that could well have been avoided by the split second decision of him deciding not to switch on his Blues and Two's on a residential road on a housing estate, you can see the actual road on the TV news, and 94mph on that type of road without any warning and at night is an accident waiting to happen.

His life was ruined because he failed to do his job right and a life was lost for that very reason, at least he is still alive.

I never knock the Police as they do a fantastic job and I am not one of the usual suspects who try to denigrate the Police at any oppurtunity, I just felt that in this case the officer had well overstepped the mark.

Originally Posted by chaos23

I am not looking for your agreement.

The point was "generally" rather than "specifically", but you probably knew that.

Originally Posted by chaos23

No their cars.

That slamming noise you just heard was irony leaving the building......

[Martyn]

someone said it was almost mid night on a monady? girl is 16 years old an goes to school? what on earth is she doing out so late?

i bet she was out drinking or do drugs of some sort... but thats just my guess, an my judgement from teenagers now-a-days..

Originally Posted by Martyn

someone said it was almost mid night on a monady? girl is 16 years old an goes to school? what on earth is she doing out so late?

i bet she was out drinking or do drugs of some sort... but thats just my guess, an my judgement from teenagers now-a-days..

I used to stay out till midnight drinking and on drugs at 16 and that was 24 years ago its still irrelevent the copper was still traveling way to fast with no warning.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Martyn

someone said it was almost mid night on a monady? girl is 16 years old an goes to school? what on earth is she doing out so late?

i bet she was out drinking or do drugs of some sort... but thats just my guess, an my judgement from teenagers now-a-days..

It is not the time of day matters but the manner in which she lost her life.

If she had been drinking or taking drugs then the defence team would have used that as mitigating circumstances and as yet the has been no mention of it so your assumption is quite wrong without such proof.

Originally Posted by Gary L

He has been found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7990188.stm

Yes I am pleased with this. The police do need to know they will be held accountable for their actions.

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Originally Posted by Derek S

He'll spend time in prison which, for a Police officer, is an exceptionally difficult place to be. He'll lose his job, probably a big chunk of his pension and his license. He'll have to pass an extended test once his disqualification expires.

His life has been ruined for doing the job he chose to do. He wasn't some yahoo screaming around at speed in a motor for a laugh. He was a highly trained driver reacting to what he believed was an ongoing crime and because of choices he made he will have to live with the death of an innocent girl for evermore.

But hey you've got your pound of flesh and seem happy about it. Another boot into the Police from the usual suspects who always are quick to moan and complain.

I just hope you never need the Police to drive quickly to help you.



Is that in their cars or the unmarked black helicopters?

Aint it just. With a bit of luck they wont seg him straight away and perhaps someone will pop his cherry and make him suffer more for what he has done


Your attitude because you are a police officer has shone through in this thread for me . His life has been ruined well what a shame maybe if more babylon though about safety than a quick nick this kinda thing will not happen again. He was on his own it was never gonna be a serious crime or he would have had backup. This guy was a bad cop the force will be well rid of him

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

This guy was a bad cop the force will be well rid of him

I think today some police think they can do what they want once they've been in the job long enough. they just get used to somethings such as speeding and using the lights to get through traffic faster. not that they need to, just that they can because they think nobody is either watching them, or nobody can do anything about it.

but they forget that they're working for the public and the public see these things going on and do report them,
If he was a fresh officer he would have used his lights, but I think because he's been in the job longer, then it's just natural to do what you want.

its nothing new the old boys brigade has been around a long time . I did post my experience of my uncle