kronas needs a woman !

[Jon M]

Originally Posted by orangebird

... as I already said, just about all of it...

so, lets see if I can get this right.. the suggestions made were more in the context of "right of passage" than a source of enjoyment in themselves?

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

so, lets see if I can get this right.. the suggestions made were more in the context of "right of passage" than a source of enjoyment in themselves?

No, you're confusing this thread with what I said to you on MSN

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

I'm sorry, but I disagree strongly ( as ever ).

We have enough problems as a country/society with drunkeness. Encouraging people to get drunk is grossy irresponsible in my opinion. (yes, before you ask, I've been drunk a few times before, and I regret every time it happened).
Stoned? Illegal, no comment required.
And sex, yes, it's great, but only when enjoyed in the right setting. If kronas is to find fulfilment and enjoyment in his life I suggest he'll be spending his time most wisely making friends and enjoying the more constructive things available.

If I'm unhappy with life, all those things are just escapism, a fleeting pleasure is just that, fleeting.
You're always left in the same state you started with.
And using any of those things to escape from things is dangerous, especially considering that the first two can form dependancies and in fact so can the third.

You are missing the point.kronas is tending to become more and more introspective and he knows this is not the best thing for him.However we as a group have tried everything to shake him into seeking professional help and to get him out into society more,at his request.However all our suggestions seem either to be ignored or dismissed so now we are trying to jolly him along,to encourage him to break the cycle he has got into.We are scraping the bottom of the barrel of our collective experiences here.

Frankly I've got to the point where I have no more advice beyond be yourself when dealing with girls and seek professional help from a qualified source rather than forum amateurs with only life experience to offer.Take it or leave it kronas but stop asking for advice if you aren't going to take it.It's pointless unless you listen and use any of it.

Sorry to be harsh but there it is.

Incog

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

You are missing the point.kronas is tending to become more and more introspective and he knows this is not the best thing for him.However we as a group have tried everything to shake him into seeking professional help and to get him out into society more,at his request.However all our suggestions seem either to be ignored or dismissed so now we are trying to jolly him along,to encourage him to break the cycle he has got into.We are scraping the bottom of the barrel of our collective experiences here.

Frankly I've got to the point where I have no more advice beyond be yourself when dealing with girls and seek professional help from a qualified source rather than forum amateurs with only life experience to offer.Take it or leave it kronas but stop asking for advice if you aren't going to take it.It's pointless unless you listen and use any of it.

Sorry to be harsh but there it is.

Incog

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Bifta

Oh yeah .. and bear in mind that Avril Lavigne is NEVER going to meet let alone date you.

and yes i do have more braincells than you think, sheesh i dont know why i even replied to this....

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Just live your life.Go out and be yourself.Stamp on the darker aspects of your nature and be yourself.Stop THINKING for a while.

i think before i do things (usally)

Originally Posted by Incognitas

It's a pity you don't drink actually because perhaps you do need to 'lose' it for a while.Stop your overactive mind functioning for a while and be you.Lose the inhibitions and whoop and holler through the streets.It's what you are supposed to do when you are 18.

the thing is im not a typical 18 year old, im controlled, i know what i am doing, i certainly dont want to look/act like a prat, drink, take drugs, smoke, im not in to the typical things an 18 year old is, im much more aligned with older people, always have been.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

It's what I did and boy did I feel better for it.Let it go kronas and stop trying to sit on top of your emotions.Let them out.Scream them out to the world.

im not sitting on anything, i just get snappy at times

Originally Posted by orangebird

Kronas: You need to get

a) drunk and/or
b) stoned
I can't believe someone is so young, so hung up and clueless, yet still think they know what they want is best. Come down a level or two, you might like it.

i point blank refuse to do those things.

i know whats best for me, staying away from drinking and smoking is good for me, especially when my physical state is more than questionable.

Originally Posted by orangebird

making sure I was as young free and (happily) single as I could possibly be. If you lose this ideal you seem to have of the right person, on the right level, with the right ethics and morals, you may find yourself actually havng some fun.

im not happy, but thats because of a number of reasons, i see your point, i dont expect the first person i come across to be 'the one' at the same time i dont not want to be in the land of promiscuity....

my morals/ethics dont allow me to, im just not that type of person, im ofcourse willing to accept multiple relationships to find someone.

i maybe ill but i still know what im on about!!!

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

What pessimists?

i saw your rep, my bad, i apologise i have not seen the movie...well in full...

Originally Posted by Incognitas

You are missing the point.kronas is tending to become more and more introspective and he knows this is not the best thing for him.However we as a group have tried everything to shake him into seeking professional help and to get him out into society more,at his request.However all our suggestions seem either to be ignored or dismissed so now we are trying to jolly him along,to encourage him to break the cycle he has got into.We are scraping the bottom of the barrel of our collective experiences here.
Sorry to be harsh but there it is.

Incog

you need to read my blog, because everything is on there, i sought proffesional help long ago, two sources to be exact.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Frankly I've got to the point where I have no more advice beyond be yourself when dealing with girls and seek professional help from a qualified source rather than forum amateurs with only life experience to offer.Take it or leave it kronas but stop asking for advice if you aren't going to take it.It's pointless unless you listen and use any of it.

i have listened to it, im not even in control of myself, i have seeked help, i nagged people to get help, its getting me nowhere, hence why i try here, as i said look at my blog, you will see in the previous postings i have seeked help.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Neil

I think he does have them, he just doesn't realise it.

if i do im a for not seeing them, unfortunately i just dont see them if i do have them, the problem i see people as being 'nice to your face' when in reality they really dont think something positive or see a quality of you.

Originally Posted by orangebird

I have plenty of pleasure other than those listed above. Kronas has none whatsoever, so he's gotta start somewhere, and these are quick wins...

well as you will see in other replies i will NEVER turn to alcohol or drugs or any related form of activity.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Well, he's tried to be constructive, sebsible, responsible blah blah - hasn't got him very far so far has it????

im sorry but you have to accept that i will not step over that line, i know most people say it but, people have offered me ciggarettes, alcohol, i have sat with people who have drunk litres of the stuff, not once have i flinched, i never will

Originally Posted by orangebird

Pray tell, what is the right setting for sex?? As long as it's not a member of your family and both parties are consenting and practice safe sex, what else do you need??

for starters, i dont want to be ****ed up or going 'on the lookout' just for a shag, its not me, thats me being honest!

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

I'm sorry, but I disagree strongly ( as ever ).

so do i.

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

We have enough problems as a country/society with drunkeness.

agreed.

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

Encouraging people to get drunk is grossy irresponsible in my opinion.

again i wholeheartedly agree.

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

And sex, yes, it's great, but only when enjoyed in the right setting. If kronas is to find fulfilment and enjoyment in his life I suggest he'll be spending his time most wisely making friends and enjoying the more constructive things available.

its what i want to do, unfortunately the people i come across (currently have) do all of things mentioned previously, so there is no closeness.....

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

If I'm unhappy with life, all those things are just escapism, a fleeting pleasure is just that, fleeting.
You're always left in the same state you started with.
And using any of those things to escape from things is dangerous, especially considering that the first two can form dependancies and in fact so can the third.

if your talking about drugs/alcohol, its what some people do to escape, admittedly most do it for 'recreational' purposes, as well as to 'fit in'

I think alcohol is seen in too much of a negative light - it can raise people's spirits, make people happy and it can drown irrelevant worries*. Look across the continent, where it is drinken sensibly and in moderation. (And don't flood me with exceptions, people. Yes, there are exceptions... but in general, these people can control themselves.) No fights, no arguments or disputes, no damaging property. Just merriness and a positive attitude. Just seems that in this country we cannot handle it. I think one of the problems for this is the 'big, hard, mature' image which people associate with alcohol, which is stupid really. Also, the early closing times and the happy hours. People rush their drinks and have too much.

If people drink in moderation, don't drive whilst alchohol is still in the blood and just enjoy themselves then I see no problem.


*Hell yes, before some people start, I know the bad parts all too well also.

[kronas]

i see your point, the inevitable thing is i have a mindset of not wanting to drink, its always been there...i see it as a bad thing for so many reasons (which are obvious) i dont think alcohol, drugs, or anything related to that will help me, because im just refusing, i dont know why OB even suggested it, i certainly would not say that to someone.

Originally Posted by kronas

i see your point, the inevitable thing is i have a mindset of not wanting to drink, its always been there...i see it as a bad thing for so many reasons (which are obvious) i dont think alcohol, drugs, or anything related to that will help me, because im just refusing, i dont know why OB even suggested it, i certainly would not say that to someone.

Have you ever drank?

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Macca371

Have you ever drank?

not even a sip, that goes for smoking and drugs aswell...

im not afraid, im just restrained, i dont want to start doing something whch could become uncontrollable, its just looking for trouble, and then there are the health issues to contend with.

omg i just found a match to a woman im 4.5 her match, shes 4 on my match looking at the profile meter, damn paysite.....

the thing is shes looking for intamacy and freedom, just like me

this always happnes, something stops me

Originally Posted by kronas

not even a sip, that goes for smoking and drugs aswell...

im not afraid, im just restrained, i dont want to start doing something whch could become uncontrollable, its just looking for trouble, and then there are the health issues to contend with.

omg i just found a match to a woman im 4.5 her match, shes 4 on my match looking at the profile meter, damn paysite.....

the thing is shes looking for intamacy and freedom, just like me

this always happnes, something stops me

Go for it! What's stopping you?

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Macca371

Go for it! What's stopping you?

its going to cost me £17 at the moment i dont have a source of income (had to leave my job because of personal issues)

Ah... that sucks.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Macca371

Ah... that sucks.

dont i know it

kronas, by the size of this thread, you arn't THAT desperate are you?