Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
22-11-2017, 17:29
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by Raider999
For me the slight delay would be no problem.
My issues would be
1) additional cost
2) smooth service as offered by std to channels
3) huge amount of my broadband usage
4) inability to record to watch at a later date (rarely in when matches are on)
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1) additional cost - actually works out cheaper than a vm or sky sub (including the fact most vm/sky customers now have BB)
2) smooth service as offered by std to channels - judder and buffering are things of the past i run 1080p streams perfectly on a 38mbs connection so even vms lowest 50mbs should handle it with ease
3) huge amount of my broadband usage - not a issue as most are unlimited
4) inability to record to watch at a later date (rarely in when matches are on) - you can record streams on pcs you will need software to do this thouigh, i believe some boxes may offer this too.
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22-11-2017, 18:09
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by theone2k10
1) additional cost - actually works out cheaper than a vm or sky sub (including the fact most vm/sky customers now have BB)
2) smooth service as offered by std to channels - judder and buffering are things of the past i run 1080p streams perfectly on a 38mbs connection so even vms lowest 50mbs should handle it with ease
3) huge amount of my broadband usage - not a issue as most are unlimited
4) inability to record to watch at a later date (rarely in when matches are on) - you can record streams on pcs you will need software to do this thouigh, i believe some boxes may offer this too.
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I would add that there is nothing to stop providers from permitting their subscribers to access past matches through video on demand.
The BBC i-Player currently does both, but all too many programmes disappear after 4 weeks.
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22-11-2017, 18:11
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I would add that there is nothing to stop providers from permitting their subscribers to access past matches through video on demand.
The BBC i-Player currently does both, but all too many programmes disappear after 4 weeks.
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Most of them seem to have adopted this habit sadly.
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23-11-2017, 20:24
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by theone2k10
1) additional cost - actually works out cheaper than a vm or sky sub (including the fact most vm/sky customers now have BB)
2) smooth service as offered by std to channels - judder and buffering are things of the past i run 1080p streams perfectly on a 38mbs connection so even vms lowest 50mbs should handle it with ease
3) huge amount of my broadband usage - not a issue as most are unlimited
4) inability to record to watch at a later date (rarely in when matches are on) - you can record streams on pcs you will need software to do this thouigh, i believe some boxes may offer this too.
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Only works out cheaper if you bin one or both of sky and BT - otherwise must be an additional cost (unless it is free)
As for recording streams on a PC, if I wanted to watch on a PC sized screen I wouldn't have bought my 48" flat screen
Another question - are these streams in a minimum of HD quality?
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23-11-2017, 21:40
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Only works out cheaper if you bin one or both of sky and BT - otherwise must be an additional cost (unless it is free)
As for recording streams on a PC, if I wanted to watch on a PC sized screen I wouldn't have bought my 48" flat screen
Another question - are these streams in a minimum of HD quality?
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First of all i use plex media server which streams from pc to my tv via my network, or you can connect a hdmi cable so your 48inch tv will still get used as normal.
I stream fine from my pc to my 40inch tv which has a plex app but i use my ROKU anyway.
second the meaning of cord cutting is getting rid of cable/sattelite tv services although i recently have re signed with SKY after a great offer so that plan backfired on me but i'm still making quite a saving overall.
Third yes the streams are in HD in my experience NBCsports stream has been better quality than SKYs HD channel, Netflix also offers content in full HD and UHD, infact every streaming channel i've used has been HD unlike SKYs pathetic SKYGO, NOWtv however is only 720p i think.
Streaming has come a long way over the last 2 or 3 years and will continue to improve greatly, even 8k streaming is now being tested in Japan although we tend to be quite behind Japan tech wise.
I'll give you breakdown of my costs below.
Fibre 38mbs unlimited bb includes line rental £22.99p/m
Netflix £6.20p/m (i use vpn so pay Mexico rates)
SKY £21p/m includes boxsets
USAtv login £7p/m (i'm lucky enough to know someone in USA who let's me use their service in return i give them a bit of cash )
vpn £5p/m
total = £71.19p/m we can take £21p/m off that when i drop SKY after xmas as it's a rolling contract.
The costs for streaming include champions league, prem league, EFL, MLS etc, HBO, Cinemax, All USA tv network channels plus more.
The equivalant via SKY or VM would be over £100p/m.
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24-11-2017, 07:29
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Only works out cheaper if you bin one or both of sky and BT - otherwise must be an additional cost (unless it is free)
As for recording streams on a PC, if I wanted to watch on a PC sized screen I wouldn't have bought my 48" flat screen
Another question - are these streams in a minimum of HD quality?
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Yes, but you could ditch Sky or BT if Amazon or one of the other streaming services took over the contract.
If you wanted to retain Sky Sports in the event they lost the contract (ie because there were also other sports you wanted to see as well), Sky would be charging a lot less given the absence of the premiership games.
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24-11-2017, 16:56
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Only works out cheaper if you bin one or both of sky and BT - otherwise must be an additional cost (unless it is free)
As for recording streams on a PC, if I wanted to watch on a PC sized screen I wouldn't have bought my 48" flat screen
Another question - are these streams in a minimum of HD quality?
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The additional cost is a broadband connection. I have binned all traditional pay TV yet still get Sky Sports and BT Sports (as well as others) for a lot less than you would pay for a traditional pay TV service.
You are a tad out of touch, most PC's can be connected to any TV which has a HDMI port and for streaming and video playback duties can be bought pretty cheaply.
I have yet to find any paid for streaming service that doesn't offer a minimum of 720P HD, when it comes to free services apart from BBC Iplayer the other PSB's are severely lacking in the image quality stakes on their online catchup services.
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24-11-2017, 19:53
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Yes, but you could ditch Sky or BT if Amazon or one of the other streaming services took over the contract.
If you wanted to retain Sky Sports in the event they lost the contract (ie because there were also other sports you wanted to see as well), Sky would be charging a lot less given the absence of the premiership games.
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Will they? I seriously doubt it. They have lost a lot of rights over the past few years - their subscription cost has never gone down.
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Originally Posted by buckeye
The additional cost is a broadband connection. I have binned all traditional pay TV yet still get Sky Sports and BT Sports (as well as others) for a lot less than you would pay for a traditional pay TV service.
You are a tad out of touch, most PC's can be connected to any TV which has a HDMI port and for streaming and video playback duties can be bought pretty cheaply.
I have yet to find any paid for streaming service that doesn't offer a minimum of 720P HD, when it comes to free services apart from BBC Iplayer the other PSB's are severely lacking in the image quality stakes on their online catchup services.
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Not out of touch at all, yes my PC could connect to the TV - however as they are nowhere near each other that is a non-starter.
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24-11-2017, 20:29
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Will they? I seriously doubt it. They have lost a lot of rights over the past few years - their subscription cost has never gone down.
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Not out of touch at all, yes my PC could connect to the TV - however as they are nowhere near each other that is a non-starter.
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Yet i told you how to still stream to your tv without needing to connect your pc if you could be bothered to read my response to your query.
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25-11-2017, 11:43
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Will they? I seriously doubt it. They have lost a lot of rights over the past few years - their subscription cost has never gone down.
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True, but the Premiership rights are the reason Sky charge so much. That is the biggie.
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25-11-2017, 12:37
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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True, but the Premiership rights are the reason Sky charge so much. That is the biggie.
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And it will remain their biggie...
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25-11-2017, 15:11
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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And it will remain their biggie...
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Same old, same old...!
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25-11-2017, 15:33
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Same old, same old...!
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25-11-2017, 17:03
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Yet i told you how to still stream to your tv without needing to connect your pc if you could be bothered to read my response to your query.
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Actually you didn't.
You said most PCs could connect to TVs with hdmi port- but not how, in the absence of any detail I assumed you meant by hdmi cable
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25-11-2017, 21:25
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Den, are you in denial? Is your best friend Dave?............
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