General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 3 - Page 119

gemma307 · 08-09-2014, 15:21

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

I'd imagine Scottish bbc will just separate and become it's own channel meaning you'd lose access to all the shows Scotland had been used to. I think at the moment Scotland is going down the road of "change for the better" path a bit like obama promised back in 2007. Change sounds great compared to the status quo but what is this "change for the better..." No details have been given except it'll be "better".

But yeah I'd imagine they'll separate and then have to make deals for each individual show? If the bbc are vindictive they might not agree to it? But I suppose Scotland bbc will have it's own budget to make it's own shows

But how on earth would Freeview/Freesat be blocked?

blue666666 · 08-09-2014, 15:32

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Originally Posted by toady

How much does it cost ITV to broadcast their channels on Freeview and Freesat?

I would assume its this amount

Broadcast states that ITV will save £2 million a year from the deal.

Freesat, in comparison, charges £75,000 per BBC TV channel, £37,500 per regional variant and £6,000 per radio station every year. Unlike Sky, the Freesat fees are solely standard EPG and regionalisation charges.

link http://www.a516digital.com/2014/02/b...ns-on-sky.html

muppetman11 · 08-09-2014, 16:25

If Sky and VM are forced to pay for the ITV channels hopefully they'll also include an opt out for all its customers , I have a Freeview TV and a YouView STB so I refuse to pay for these channels when I can already watch them through my TV at no extra cost after I've paid my TV license.

Gavin-D · 08-09-2014, 16:48

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

If Sky and VM are forced to pay for the ITV channels hopefully they'll also include an opt out for all its customers , I have a Freeview TV and a YouView STB so I refuse to pay for these channels when I can already watch them through my TV at no extra cost after I've paid my TV license.

Then again VM's owners could still buy ITV yet so who knows what will happen

nashmills · 08-09-2014, 17:04

Are we going to be able to upgrade to one of these soon? http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/08/tivo-mega-24tb-dvr/

cj136uk · 08-09-2014, 17:13

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Originally Posted by Mobes

I guess my question needs to go in a 'GOING SOON?' thread lol but if the Scots vote for Independence will the BBC channels go behind a pay wall in Scotland?

I can understand all the others will be fine as they are advert led but what about the Beeb?

At this stage no one knows. This will be worked out, in the event of separation. Freesat is one option.

One proposal was for a Scottish Broadcasting Service, to take over from the BBC to opt into programmes by contract, al la RTE in Ireland where they simulcast a number of programs. No decision on adverts, it should be free at the point of delivery.

I believe the BBC will try an maintain their presence in Scotland. This could be through an arrangement with the Scottish Government, SBS or via payTV services.

It hasn't happened yet. I believe a considerable amount of people would like to maintain the programs, but not the news services, that would need to be based in Scotland!

But very controversial

muppetman11 · 08-09-2014, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D

Then again VM's owners could still buy ITV yet so who knows what will happen

Its not only ITV though is it ?

At the Edinburgh TV Festival David Abraham of Channel 4 called for similar regulation in his MacTaggart lecture.

cj136uk · 08-09-2014, 17:21

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

I'd imagine Scottish bbc will just separate and become it's own channel meaning you'd lose access to all the shows Scotland had been used to. I think at the moment Scotland is going down the road of "change for the better" path a bit like obama promised back in 2007. Change sounds great compared to the status quo but what is this "change for the better..." No details have been given except it'll be "better".

But yeah I'd imagine they'll separate and then have to make deals for each individual show? If the bbc are vindictive they might not agree to it? But I suppose Scotland bbc will have it's own budget to make it's own shows

The BBC just won't disappear! BBC1/2/3/4 and the radio services are available across europe, either pay tv or free via freesat. Radio is available all over the world.

No one knows what will happen in the negotiations. But for commercial and funding reasons, the BBC does not want to loose £320 millions in license fee money.
One proposal, which you partly talked about was the SBS proposal, hive off BBC Scotland services, keep/buy in the best network programming, as they do in Ireland (the programmes air at exactly the same time!). The rest of the schedule is made in Scotland or imported.

The BBC could remain, have a presence via BBC Scotland/SBS like the S4C model

BBC can't just disappear, there is freesat and as I already stated commercial funding reasons meaning the BBC just won't let 5 million viewers or listeners go.

DOT COTTON · 08-09-2014, 17:33

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Originally Posted by cj136uk

The BBC just won't disappear! BBC1/2/3/4 and the radio services are available across europe, either pay tv or free via freesat. Radio is available all over the world.

No one knows what will happen in the negotiations. But for commercial and funding reasons, the BBC does not want to loose £320 millions in license fee money.
One proposal, which you partly talked about was the SBS proposal, hive off BBC Scotland services, keep/buy in the best network programming, as they do in Ireland (the programmes air at exactly the same time!). The rest of the schedule is made in Scotland or imported.

The BBC could remain, have a presence via BBC Scotland/SBS like the S4C model

BBC can't just disappear, there is freesat and as I already stated commercial funding reasons meaning the BBC just won't let 5 million viewers or listeners go.

in the Republic of Ireland, yes.

1andrew1 · 08-09-2014, 17:38

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Originally Posted by gemma307

But how on earth would Freeview/Freesat be blocked?

Freeview could just be restricted to transmitting channels that cover England and Wales and accept some spillover into Scotland. But that's way off topic!
"Coming soon" may well become a smaller thread if we're to believe Darren Childs of UKTV which enjoys a 9% UK market share. He's predicted the number of TV channels will decrease as there is no growth in TV advertising or carriage fees. http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2014/...decrease-soon/

cj136uk · 08-09-2014, 17:44

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Originally Posted by DOT COTTON

in the Republic of Ireland, yes.

Obviously, as the BBC provide services fta in NI.

Curiously RTE broadcast on freeview in NI and on Saorsat

Chad · 08-09-2014, 17:52

BBC's future in Scotland being featured in the Guardian today

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2014...d-keep-the-bbc

Mad Max · 08-09-2014, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Chad

BBC's future in Scotland being featured in the Guardian today

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2014...d-keep-the-bbc

From the article...

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plus the £12m annually provided by the Scottish government for Gaelic broadcasting,

There's a saving straight away, absolutely ridiculous that we are spending money on this minority and very rarely used language!

Also just vote NO, saves a lot of hassle.

DOT COTTON · 08-09-2014, 18:04

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Originally Posted by cj136uk

Obviously, as the BBC provide services fta in NI.

Curiously RTE broadcast on freeview in NI and on Saorsat

RTE do not broadcast on freeview here in NI. Its not on my freeview EPG, virgin however do broadcast RTE ONE AND TWO on vm 875 876

cj136uk · 08-09-2014, 18:12

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Originally Posted by DOT COTTON

RTE do not broadcast on freeview here in NI. Its not on my freeview EPG, virgin however do broadcast RTE ONE AND TWO on vm 875 876

According to the good Friday agreement it does, also stated on the Guardian's article above. It may be on low power.