Football Season 2012/2013 - Page 114

denphone · 29-10-2012, 11:02

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Newcastle beat Spurs and Liverpool to Moussa Sissoko with the player set to move in August for free after committing to sign a pre-contract in January.

Thats a good steal by Newcastle.

Arthurgray50@blu · 29-10-2012, 13:46

Once again we have sour grapes from Chelsea, firstly Torres did dive, and it was a second Yellow - instant Red.

Now they are accusing Clattenburg (not the best ref around) of using inappropriate words - all this will be on tape. Total sour grapes as far as l am concerned.

Everyone is assuning its the race card again.

adzii_nufc · 29-10-2012, 14:17

I doubt anything will come of it. This racial crap is way out of hand now.

I won't make judgement on whether there was or was not racial abuse or not but if there was it's obvious he'll be gone and I only think it's fair that if there was no abuse at all, Chelsea should receive a fine and the players launching false allegations given match bans because this is a serious allegation that has the potential to ruin this guy's career.

Referee microphone audio isn't recorded but is live for both linesmen and the fourth official to hear for the 90 minutes so there's three key witnesses.

Arthurgray50@blu · 29-10-2012, 15:23

I cannot imagine that a top quality referee with a microphone would come out with anything so stupid.

I think its pure sour grapes from Chelsea as they lost players and lost the game.

Torres, has only himself to blame for this as he is a well known diver and he gets caught, but it was his SECOND booking - so he walks.

denphone · 29-10-2012, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I think its pure sour grapes from Chelsea as they lost players and lost the game.

Torres, has only himself to blame for this as he is a well known diver and he gets caught, but it was his SECOND booking - so he walks.

l see your love of Tottenham would not have anything to do with your dislike of Chelsea Arthur would it?.

MalteseFalcon · 29-10-2012, 15:32

Quick, fetch a doctor. I agree with Arthur. Unless he is a total racist thug, no-one would be stupid enough to make racist comments with a mircophone active. There are 3 witnesses to this so called racism, so if they say there wasn't then Chelsea haven't got a leg to stand on.

29-10-2012, 16:34

He probably told them to shut up after being berated by them constantly and they are claiming racism.

alwaysabear · 29-10-2012, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Jameseh

He probably told them to shut up after being berated by them constantly and they are claiming racism.

Chelsea's favourite tactic to surround the ref and berate him.

colin25 · 30-10-2012, 05:40

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

Chelsea's favourite tactic to surround the ref and berate him.

I have seen Man Utd do that often, at one time i thought the ref wore a red shirt, he was surrounded so often :P

Arthurgray50@blu · 30-10-2012, 11:51

The biggest trouble with Chelsea, they always think they can get away with it.

I feel for Clattenberg, l don't think any ref is safe at Man Utd or Chelsea, The aggro is that Torres has made a name for himself to be a diver, l have seen the tackle and ok he was clipped but talk about an Oscar winning dive, he should have had one for that. I think Hazard is being trained by Torres as he has done it as well.
A major problem is that referee's have got to be much tougher with players who go into the box, and dive and to me it should be a straight red for cheating.

This problem goesd on in lower league stuff, l did a game when l was running behind two players and the player on my left went down in the box, and there must have been a foot space, he claimed he was tripped and argued rotten until his manager told him, l was behind him - l booked him for ungentleman conduct.

thenry · 30-10-2012, 17:11

why do refs get suspended but players are able to carry on playing after such accusations, shouldnt it work both ways. may be that way they the footballing officials can kick a fair amount of crap out the game as well stamping authority.

denphone · 30-10-2012, 18:01

Micah Richards Manchester City's defender out for four months

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20112838

Very sad to hear that news.

MalteseFalcon · 30-10-2012, 18:11

Apparently police and FA have asked to interview some Man United players about these comments. A few thoughts.

1. Would a referee be so stupid to make comments like he is being accused of with a mircrophone active for the Fourth official AND both linesmen to hear every word?
2. If Clattenburg is racist, why has no black or foreign player made a complaint about it until after this particular game?
3. Is his reputation finished, even if the claims are found to be false? I mean, what's to stop a black or foreign player in future matches to say 'he called me racist names' when their team has a bad match?
4. Will Chelsea be punished if they are found to be false claims? I would hope so, because if innocent it is a shocking thing to make up and I would hope Chelsea suffered a huge points and financial penalty.

Arthurgray50@blu · 30-10-2012, 19:27

It has been stated in a national newspaper - and no it wasn't The Sun, that Chelsea officials and players went into Clattenburg dressing room and threatened to break his legs after the game.

As stated earlier WHY would a referee be so stupid to say something stupid, with an open mike- it beggars belief. And also, why is it always Chelsea that have problems with referee's.

It also sounds strange how the PFA and the Black Footballers association get onto the bang wagon about all this, the players carried on playing until the end of the game, before complaining about what IF Clattenburg has said. There are FA officials plus extra officials in the ground during matches so WHY wasn't nothing said then.

Fergie and the Chelsea manager argued on the touchline, still again why didn't the players say anything.
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Guarantee you that the Chelsea players have made up some story of what happened as everything depends on WHAT HAS BEEN SAID ON THE LIVE MIC and no one can change that and don't forget the TWO linesman that had open mics also.

colin25 · 30-10-2012, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

It has been stated in a national newspaper - and no it wasn't The Sun, that Chelsea officials and players went into Clattenburg dressing room and threatened to break his legs after the game.

As stated earlier WHY would a referee be so stupid to say something stupid, with an open mike- it beggars belief. And also, why is it always Chelsea that have problems with referee's.

It also sounds strange how the PFA and the Black Footballers association get onto the bang wagon about all this, the players carried on playing until the end of the game, before complaining about what IF Clattenburg has said. There are FA officials plus extra officials in the ground during matches so WHY wasn't nothing said then.

Fergie and the Chelsea manager argued on the touchline, still again why didn't the players say anything.
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Guarantee you that the Chelsea players have made up some story of what happened as everything depends on WHAT HAS BEEN SAID ON THE LIVE MIC and no one can change that and don't forget the TWO linesman that had open mics also.

On your reasoning, the refs could make up whatever story they like, similar to your accusation against the chelsea players.

The open mic is only used by the refs.

And not unheard of a ref cheating.

Interesting speculation, but that is all it is. i won't hold you to the guarantee, despite it being impossible to prove.