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					Originally Posted by Angua  Like Jeremy leading the Labour party did more to boost the Tories. Jacob leading the Tories would do more to boost the opposition. |  Exactly as if Labour had a decent leader they would be way ahead in the polls given the grave crisis we have  in this country now..
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  We have had our smart meter for 2 years now and thus so far we are pretty happy with it. |  I read the other day that the Energy companies will be charging customers £150 a year if you do not have a Smart Meter.  This is Blackmail to me.  I do not have one yet but not really interested from stories I have heard.
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					Originally Posted by nashville  I read the other day that the Energy companies will be charging customers £150 a year if you do not have a Smart Meter.  This is Blackmail to me.  I do not have one yet but not really interested from stories I have heard. |  They are offering their cheapest tariffs to customers who accept a Smart Meter - tariffs without a Smart Meter may cost up to £150 per year more.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  They are offering their cheapest tariffs to customers who accept a Smart Meter - tariffs without a Smart Meter may cost up to £150 per year more. |  Not all of the "they" are doing this. Some of the smaller companies do not do smart meters and are cheaper than the main 5. 
 
Anyone who sticks with the same energy supplier all the time will pay for the reductions they offer new customers.
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		|  16-11-2018, 01:25 | #1670 |  
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					Originally Posted by Angua  Not all of the "they" are doing this. Some of the smaller companies do not do smart meters and are cheaper than the main 5. 
 Anyone who sticks with the same energy supplier all the time will pay for the reductions they offer new customers.
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  That’s because the smaller companies aren’t being mandated by the Government to install Smart Meters in their customers’ premises, so don’t have the overhead cost. |  
Yes i always go for the smaller cheaper companies.  So what if 2 of them went bust !  Hasn't affected me at all, and i've got the cheapest (same) energy in the meantime.
 
As for Smart meters - don't trust them, they snoop on you and fry your brains     Seriously  - if hacked, someone would be able to tell when you're away/out of the house, using no energy.
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 Theresa May's government could lose the support of its DUP allies unless the Tory party replace her with a new leader, according to reports.
 
 The Northern Irish party would vote down the withdrawal agreement in Parliament, adding that its support now “depended on who the leader of the Conservative Party is,” The Daily Telegraph reports.
 
 The party's deputy today savaged the PM in the Commons, saying she clearly "doesn't listen" to them and their Brexit demands.
 
 Nigel Dodds told the Prime Minister this morning: "We stand up for the whole of the UK, the integrity of the UK or we vote  for a vassal state with the break up of the UK."
 
 He commended ex-Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab and DWP boss Esther McVey who both quit today over her Brexit deal.
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			And if they get rid of her  it will be all out civil war in the Conservative party and make these last few days seem like a cosy tea party.
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  And if they get rid of her  it will be all out civil war in the Conservative party and make these last few days seem like a cosy tea party. |  The decline of the Roman Empire was much like this    |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone  And if they get rid of her  it will be all out civil war in the Conservative party and make these last few days seem like a cosy tea party. |  I don't think that a crash and burn situation would be good for the country, so let's not look forward to that with great relish, Den. 
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  The decline of the Roman Empire was much like this   |  Quite a harbinger of doom, aren't we, Mr K?
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  I don't think that a crash and burn situation would be good for the country, so let's not look forward to that with great relish, Den. |  l never stated that l would look forward to that OB but you know as well as l do that that scenario cannot be ruled out given how things are transpiring in front of our eyes.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  The decline of the Roman Empire was much like this   |  I hope not! That took 100+ years to play out ...
		 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  I hope not! That took 100+ years to play out ... |  And there were plenty of backstabbing , power grabbing and assassinations during that time as well.   
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		| Leading Brexiteers in the cabinet have rallied behind Theresa May amid attempts to unseat her by Tory MPs. Michael Gove said he "absolutely" had confidence in Mrs May as he confirmed he would not be following several other ministers out of the door.
 And Liam Fox urged MPs to support the PM's draft Brexit agreement, saying a "deal was better than no deal".
 Amber Rudd has been confirmed as the new work and pensions secretary after Esther McVey's resignation on Thursday.
 A replacement for Dominic Raab, who also resigned as Brexit Secretary over the deal, has yet to be announced.
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