Britain outside the EU

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Carth

Fine, you've persuaded me that getting an unskilled job in the UK is very difficult and almost impossible under some circumstances.

I guess the best thing we can do is allow lots of foreign workers into the country so they can do them.

Oh hang on, wouldn't those same foreigners encounter exactly the same problems you've highlighted?

That's a story I brought to this very forum some time ago. I work with people from all over the EU in my local office. One of the managers, a Hungarian lady had her 18 year old brother come over to the UK ostensibly to improve his English.

While here, he worked in a number of causal jobs - building site labourer, washing up in a restaurant, pot man in a pub and a cleaner. If he didn't like a job, he moved and got a different one in a day or so, he was almost never out of work. His opinion of long term unemployed people, especially young people with no commitments wasn't great! He could not understand how anyone could be out of work.

He was Norman Tebbits dream, he got on his bike and found work.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

That's a story I brought to this very forum some time ago. I work with people from all over the EU in my local office. One of the managers, a Hungarian lady had her 18 year old brother come over to the UK ostensibly to improve his English.

While here, he worked in a number of causal jobs - building site labourer, washing up in a restaurant, pot man in a pub and a cleaner. If he didn't like a job, he moved and got a different one in a day or so, he was almost never out of work. His opinion of long term unemployed people, especially young people with no commitments wasn't great! He could not understand how anyone could be out of work.

He was Norman Tebbits dream, he got on his bike and found work.

I was trying so very hard not to mention Norman Tebbit

Originally Posted by Pierre

All this investment we are seeing leave the UK since Brexit, Oh................

https://news.sky.com/story/ellesmere...-vans-12349750

Ha, I just came in here to post this.

There’s no doubt though, Brexit will destroy our automotive industry.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Chris

Ha, I just came in here to post this.

There’s no doubt though, Brexit will destroy our automotive industry.

I wouldn't put it past the perfidious EC to scrutinise the subsidy and find a basis for banning the vehicles from import into the EU.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris

Ha, I just came in here to post this.

There’s no doubt though, Brexit will destroy our automotive industry.

Car factory remains open? Hardly a spectacular Brexit success story is it ?

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Car factory remains open? Hardly a spectacular Brexit success story is it ?

“Car factory remains open” is always a good economy/industry story. Whenever a model comes to the end of its life and a new one is designed, the whole factory has to be re-tooled and the workforce trained to build it. In this multinational era of car manufacturing this is always a vulnerable time for a factory because it’s an opportunity for governments in other countries (or indeed, international organisations with ‘regional development funds’ to dish out) to tempt them to install their new tools and train new workers in a shiny new factory somewhere the wages are low.

So the recent Nissan and Vauxhall stories are great news on their own terms because their survival was never a given. They are further notable, however, because the referendum remain campaign seemed so sure that Britain could never retain its car industry outside of the EU. Clearly they were wrong. Again.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Car factory remains open? Hardly a spectacular Brexit success story is it ?

As opposed to closing, which is what remainers said would happen.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I wouldn't put it past the perfidious EC to scrutinise the subsidy and find a basis for banning the vehicles from import into the EU.

Hopefully, at least for the Nissan deal, the fact that the French Government, own 6.4% of the company should sweeten the deal from that side (Renault own 43% of Nissan and the French Government own 15% of Renault)

Vauxhall being owned by a Dutch company can't hurt either

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

As opposed to closing, which is what remainers said would happen.

Reality: The plant's owner said its future was threatened by no-deal...something which many on this Forum were keen advocates of. Fortunately, BoJo negotiated a deal.

PSA chief executive Carlos Tavares said he would build future Vauxhall Astras and Opel Astras in southern Europe if Britain crashes out of the EU without a satisfactory agreement in place.

This would threaten the closure of the Ellesmere Port factory in Cheshire, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/29/vauxh...oney-10479097/

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Reality: The plant's owner said its future was threatened by no-deal...something which many on this Forum were keen advocates of. Fortunately, BoJo negotiated a deal.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/29/vauxh...oney-10479097/

Did the Metro (news . . . but not as you know it) also write stories about house prices crashing?

[1andrew1]

Daily Express doing its best to clutch at straws.

Take that EU! British haulier to exploit Brexit loophole after EU rejects UK demands

A BRITISH haulier has found a loophole in the European Union's Brexit demands to keep his drivers on the road.

Haulage boss Robert Hewett bought a new depot in the Netherlands after Brexit to continue his business but found out his drivers could not drive them due to not having EU-registered driver's licences. He has since found a loophole in the European Union's rules to train his drivers in Ireland to keep his business running. This is expected to cost him a total of £130,000.

Speaking to BBC Panorama, Mr Hewett said: "We thought we've invested £3.5million by buying a facility in Europe to overcome the Brexit thing and be ahead of the game and then this hit us.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...orts-latest-vn

[Carth]

Been a while since we had a post in here, let's try this one . .

EU unveils sweeping climate change plan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57833807

One of the most eye-catching proposals is a carbon border tax on goods like steel, cement and fertiliser to ensure that European industry, which has to pay for permits to use carbon, can compete. However, the proposal is contentious and could spark a trade war with China and the US.

I believe Australia aren't too happy about it either, and India make a lot of (cheap) steel

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Been a while since we had a post in here, let's try this one . .

EU unveils sweeping climate change plan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57833807

I believe Australia aren't too happy about it either, and India make a lot of (cheap) steel

With 50 dead in Belgium and Germany from flooding, you can understand why they are looking at such plans.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-57853014

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

With 50 dead in Belgium and Germany from flooding, you can understand why they are looking at such plans.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-57853014

I doubt their 'plans' are going to change anything, there are much larger countries in the World ripping forests up and/or still using coal to provide energy.

For every step taken to solve Climate Change, there are two steps taken in the other direction by those who's economy relies on harmful practices.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

I doubt their 'plans' are going to change anything, there are much larger countries in the World ripping forests up and/or still using coal to provide energy.

For every step taken to solve Climate Change, there are two steps taken in the other direction by those who's economy relies on harmful practices.

I'm not sure that's a valid argument for not trying.