All F1 2004 Discussions

[andygrif]

It was amazing wasn't it? I love Monaco anyway, as it's far more real that the tracks - and the on-board cams give a real perspective of the speed these guys drive at.

As great a driver as Schumacher F1 has become (for me) tedious with him driving in it. Yesterday offered a real 'edge of seat' race like the good old days and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's sad that no-one can come close to the skill of Schumacher - but as long as they don't the sport is worse off with him in it.

[Alanmelon]

Thats right - it's a bit of a shame that there's little competition for the top spot these days.

Perhaps they should give Schumacher his own division, and let the others get on with it :pp

However, it's not just down to driver skill. Time after time we see brilliantly intuitive tactics by the Ferrari team. They rarely get it wrong. Not to mention the car, which may not be as good as some say (see Barrichello ) but it's certainly in the top two or three and incredibly reliable.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by andygrif

It was amazing wasn't it? I love Monaco anyway, as it's far more real that the tracks - and the on-board cams give a real perspective of the speed these guys drive at.

As great a driver as Schumacher F1 has become (for me) tedious with him driving in it. Yesterday offered a real 'edge of seat' race like the good old days and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's sad that no-one can come close to the skill of Schumacher - but as long as they don't the sport is worse off with him in it.

some of the onboard camera shots were brilliant , i hope this is the start of the rest of the season

[sherer]

it was an excting race and what everyone really wanted to see but if you analyse the race in greater detail we never actually saw any overtaking.. it was all people crashing and retirements that made for an exciting race which isn't actually what we want to see.. even if the race had another 10 laps and button had caught trulli at .1-.3 tenths a lap faster he never stood a chance of overtaking trulli..

i think it was Shuey's fault in the tunnel.. it was a stupid place to try and warm up your brakes and tyres with no visability and then he didn't give Montoya any room either..compounding his own mistake.. i wonder if the FIA will take any action over Shuey squeezing his rival under the safety car? Think it was another case of him loosing it under pressure.. Ferrari had already made a mistake by not pitting when the safety car came out and would have lost the race anyway..

Originally Posted by sherer

Ferrari had already made a mistake by not pitting when the safety car came out and would have lost the race anyway..

The problem for Ferrari was that when the Safety Car was out, Schumacher wasn't anywhere near the "window" for a pitstop. Yes, he could have come in, but they wouldn't have been able to fuel him to the end of the race meaning that he'd still have to come in later and thus get no advantage from it.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Graham

The problem for Ferrari was that when the Safety Car was out, Schumacher wasn't anywhere near the "window" for a pitstop. Yes, he could have come in, but they wouldn't have been able to fuel him to the end of the race meaning that he'd still have to come in later and thus get no advantage from it.

I don't understand how people are saying that he was not in the window for a stop. All the other cars that did stop were fuelled up to the end of the race as he would have been if he had come in.

[sherer]

i think Ferrari should have just filled him to the end whether he was due a stop or not.. I understand people saying he wasn't due to stop for another 8-10 laps but even if he hadn't crashed out he would have had to build a gap of over 25 seconds.. bearing in mind the Michelan types work better on the first lap after a safetye car incident anyway and they all the cars behind were on fresh types..

the point i was actually trying to make was the race wasn't as exciting as people make out.. we had no real overtaking.. it was just people crashing and retirements.. the end of the race may have been close but there was no way Button was every going to get the win so this close finish right down to the last lap of the race where we didn't know who was going to win was all an invention of the media.. take out the crashes and retirements and it's another boring Monaco procession.. having said that my make this into a GP trip next season..

[paulyoung666]

but you wont get overtaking at monaco will you , hockenheim should be well interesting i reckon

[Florence]

Wonder what will happen now Jaguar have lost their £140,00 0 diamond. Read more here about the diamond embeded in the bonnet of the jaguar

[paulyoung666]

ralf on pole , i wonder if he has 1 or 2 eggcups of fuel on board

I wonder how many people he will take out at the first corner

- brakes are going to be a big issue on this circuit.

[Alanmelon]

I wonder how long it will take ITV to pull the coverage if it over-runs into the football.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Alanmelon

I wonder how long it will take ITV to pull the coverage if it over-runs into the football.

it goes over to itv2 at 7-00 pm , not much good if you aint got digital though

same as the qualies not being shown live because of coro bluddddy nation street rerun

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Alanmelon

I wonder how long it will take ITV to pull the coverage if it over-runs into the football.

I was just thinking the same thing with the two events being so close together. ITV2 are carrying live F1 from 7:00 to 7:40 so I would imaging that coverage would continue on there, no consolation if you can't get ITV2.

Originally Posted by Alanmelon

I wonder how long it will take ITV to pull the coverage if it over-runs into the football.

good point - that may be why they have the 1900 - 1940 slot on ITV2 scheduled - at a pinch they could continue race coverage on there?

<edit> I see Ian & Paul are thinking along the same lines