TiVo : Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?

Originally Posted by WillPS

Of course.
As I understand it, a clause, or series of clauses exists which state something to the effect of:
i.As an integral part of this agreement, BSkyB will ensure carriage of the channels set out in Appendix x for the fixed amount set out in appendix y for a period of no less than 20 years.

The following clause or similar would ensure the Sky 1a and Sky Atlantic situation would not have occurred:
ii.In addition, BSkyB will ensure that any channels not included in Appendix x which are not Premium channels (as defined in Appendix z) will be made available at the rate set out in appendix y for a period of no less than 20 years. For the avoidance of doubt, this includes all channels (other than Premium channels) wholly owned by BSkyB or their wholly owned subsidiaries.

Yes - any company would be happy to sign a contract that states that things that don't yet exist will be covered (because, of course, that would be signing away any future product differential they have.....)

Really? have you ever been involved in major contract negotiation with a multi-national corporation?

[HDFootyMan]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes - any company would be happy to sign a contract that states that things that don't yet exist will be covered (because, of course, that would be signing away any future product differential they have.....

I did try to point this out at the time but people on CF were too outraged at Sky Atlantic's absence on VM to realise that no company is going to allow a competitor access to a product which doesn't even exist yet - let alone give away a valuable USP.

Oh - and the channel selection via MRS is, well, currently crap.

[WillPS]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes - any company would be happy to sign a contract that states that things that don't yet exist will be covered (because, of course, that would be signing away any future product differential they have.....)

Really? have you ever been involved in major contract negotiation with a multi-national corporation?

Yes, in the last couple of weeks no less. Sky clearly wanted control of VMTV pretty badly (they paid a massive sum).

Future proofing a contract is standard, especially when you are selling your future negotiation power.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Or perhaps the fact that Sky have it as "exclusive" may be a clue.....

Originally Posted by Jameseh

Or they used the brilliant negotiation team that didn't foresee Sky Movies Classics HD.

Of the two, I think Hugh's is the more likely really.

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One further question about MRS (as I only have the one Tivo!)

If you have one Tivo in one room and another in another and they both have the same channels on them, why on earth would you either want or need to stream the same channels from one box to the other. Your own programmes I can understand, but you have the same channels on all boxes.

Or did I miss something?

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Of the two, I think Hugh's is the more likely really.

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One further question about MRS (as I only have the one Tivo!)

If you have one Tivo in one room and another in another and they both have the same channels on them, why on earth would you either want or need to stream the same channels from one box to the other. Your own programmes I can understand, but you have the same channels on all boxes.

Or did I miss something?

Isn't it pretty obvious

Your children are watching a show in your main room as guests call , they can go into your other room and continue where they left off.

The other advantage is for non PVR customers who can watch PVR recordings in another room (not available on VM yet).

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Of the two, I think Hugh's is the more likely really.

---------- Post added at 09:53 ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 ----------

One further question about MRS (as I only have the one Tivo!)

If you have one Tivo in one room and another in another and they both have the same channels on them, why on earth would you either want or need to stream the same channels from one box to the other. Your own programmes I can understand, but you have the same channels on all boxes.

Or did I miss something?

Recorded programmes streaming from one box to another so you don't have to record same program on both,but unbelievably the selection(no surprise vm) available is worse than the ipad.yet again vm's failure to deliver again

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Recorded programmes streaming from one box to another so you don't have to record same program on both.

Yes. I get that bit

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Isn't it pretty obvious

I guess not

Your children are watching a show in your main room as guests call , they can go into your other room and continue where they left off.

They can do that already, pretty-much?

The other advantage is for non PVR customers who can watch PVR recordings in another room (not available on VM yet).

Of course. But that's recordings, not channels; which is all you have at the moment. Which was my point

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

They can do that already, pretty-much?

Carl as you well know we're talking MRS which is streaming recordings from one box to another why on earth would you think we're on about live linear TV on a thread specifically about Multiroom streaming

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Of course. But that's recordings, not channels; which is all you have at the moment. Which was my point

Why would you need to stream linear channels when you have another STB with a viewing card to receive them , seriously Carl what an earth are you on about.

[nstokes]

I dont see where Carl is going with this. MRS is obvious its called MULTI ROOM STREAM for RECORDED content. Like everyone has said if you have 2 boxes then no need to stream LIVE channels. Streaming RECORDED content makes sense

[carlwaring]

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. Will leave you all to it

[howardmicks]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. Will leave you all to it

[Qtx]

So is this multiroom streaming similar to having a plex server with addons and a tv with a plex type client?

[Doz007]

Have any new channels been added to the MRS list yet?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Doz007

Have any new channels been added to the MRS list yet?

I hope they do, i might start using it then.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I hope they do, i might start using it then.

Indeed me as well but as we all know its coming soon.