Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
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It is but are you suggesting smokers cannot go without a cigarette for any period of time ?
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Depends what you mean by a period of time. 2 minutes? Maybe. Before I moved closer to my office the drive to work was around 1 hour 15 minutes. I don't imagine many smokers would be able to go without lighting up for that long. I reckon most drivers could make that journey without needing to drink something though, the urge to do that is probably lower than the pull of a nicotine addiction.
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05-06-2015, 08:04
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
Its all about the routine of a smoker as well, if he or she always smokes in the car then it would be hard for them to break that cycle, when I used to smoke it was the drive to and from work that I would smoke the most.
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05-12-2016, 10:58
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
A ban on smoking in cars carrying children comes into force in Scotland today.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-38184585
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05-12-2016, 11:26
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
I'm sure it will be enforced as effectively as in England: 
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Legislation introduced in October 2015 makes it illegal to smoke in a vehicle carrying someone who is under 18.
However, police forces have found it extremely difficult to enforce the law and, as of June this year, only three forces in England and Wales reported incidents, all of which were dealt with by verbal warnings.
But now, in what is thought to be one of the first in the country, a man has been successfully prosecuted in court.
Downing, 28, of Algar Road, Sheffield, pleaded guilty to smoking in a vehicle in which a child is present after being stopped by police on the A1 in Morpeth on May 20 this year.
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
So people can still smoke in their car if there are no children involved?
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
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So people can still smoke in their car if there are no children involved?
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05-12-2016, 19:32
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
Personally It should be illegal to smoke in the car, I've seen people on the M11 one hand hold the cig and the other lighting it, and the say holding a mobile in one hand is more dangerous.
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06-12-2016, 01:52
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
What happens if the smoker is actually under 18 (which is perfectly legal) , but the passengers are all adults ?
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
I think that would be fine.
An adult can't smoke when children are present in the car, but there's nothing to say that a 'child' cannot smoke when adults are present in the car.
I don't agree with the smoking ban in all enclosed public areas, but found it odd that whilst adults who should be able to make an informed choice about going into a pub, restaurant etc that either does or doesn't allow smoking, a child could have no say in the matter about being forced into a small metal box filled with smoke for potentially hours on end!
So whilst I do support this change in the law, I doubt it will make any difference.
The cuts to the police budget means that they have more pressing matters to attend to and responsible parents wouldn't do it regardless of the law.
Those who don't care about their childrens health are unlikely to care about complying with this new law either.
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06-12-2016, 08:06
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
What happens when one smoker is 19yrs and one smoker is 17rs ? This legislation is typical of populist legislation the various governments tend to introduce lately ,it appeals to a minority but is so full of holes it doesn't work .
Incidentally in Scotland it is illegal to smoke,be in possession of and sell tobacco products to under 18's
In England and Wales it is only illegal to sell tobacco products to under 18's ,why the massive differences in legislation ? Prior to 2007 the minimum age to buy and consume tobacco was 16yrs ,why did the then Labour government remove the age restriction to smoke ?
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06-12-2016, 08:16
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
Isnt there a smoking ban in work vans as well. I dont even think that works I see it all the time.
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06-12-2016, 12:18
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
You see reports all the time of a self-employed person being fined for smoking in their own van, a van no-one else has access too. A guy recently got fined for not displaying a no smoking sign in his own van!
A lot of legislation over the past few years seems to be the result of bored lobbyists, lefty loonies or similar. Fiddling around the edges instead of solving the country's real problems.
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
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You see reports all the time of a self-employed person being fined for smoking in their own van, a van no-one else has access too. A guy recently got fined for not displaying a no smoking sign in his own van!
A lot of legislation over the past few years seems to be the result of bored lobbyists, lefty loonies or similar. Fiddling around the edges instead of solving the country's real problems.
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The nanny state in action!
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06-12-2016, 19:32
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
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Isnt there a smoking ban in work vans as well. I dont even think that works I see it all the time.
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Not specifically there isn't no .The restriction applies to the workplace which includes work vans and company cars
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06-12-2016, 21:01
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Re: Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association
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Isnt there a smoking ban in work vans as well. I don't even think that works I see it all the time.
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Its classified as a work place.
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