Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?

[downquark1]

I'm probably not going to post anything more as we will just end up going in circles. But I do have a genuine religious question. Since the old testament of the bible contains the jewish books and has rules such as kosher eating. Who or when was it decided which parts are jewish only and which parts are Christian?

I realise this in off-topic, but I don't want to start another religious thread for obvious reasons.

[Russ]

Wait til the next such thread pops up and ask then

As I said at the start, Faith is a faith and to everyone else its just a story. This is why it should not be taught in schools because while to some its a belief that they are sure of there are millions of other beliefs that people are sure of and they do not belong in schools. Evidence should be the requirement and I do not agree with those trying to get creationism to be taught in schools simply because they think they are right, the world is not run by religion anymore and while its fine that people hold these faiths it is not acceptible for them to try and get them into childs heads as a 'science' by misusing the school system

Science is Science.Creationism is part of religious education.As long as they are taught in the right places on the timetable why are we having such disagreements?

Arguing with certain people's beliefs is so often pointless that I wonder why yet again we are back to the same arguments and the same stale mate.

Surely by now we know how these threads end up..so why do we keep flogging a deceased equine over and over? We always end up in the same place.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Science is Science.Creationism is part of religious education.As long as they are taught in the right places on the timetable why are we having such disagreements?

Ah but in the US, "they" want intelligent design or sometimes creationism taught as science.

I agree with the of the rest of what you said.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Science is Science.Creationism is part of religious education.As long as they are taught in the right places on the timetable why are we having such disagreements?

Arguing with certain people's beliefs is so often pointless that I wonder why yet again we are back to the same arguments and the same stale mate.

Surely by now we know how these threads end up..so why do we keep flogging a deceased equine over and over? We always end up in the same place.

As long as there are religious people, there will be pointless debates.

*prepares for barrage of neg*

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Macca371

As long as there are religious people, there will be pointless debates.

Replace religious people with philosophers and day time talk shows, and I would agree.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Macca371

As long as there are religious people, there will be pointless debates.

Replace 'people' with 'intolerance/ignorance' and you've got yourself a deal.

Originally Posted by downquark1

Replace religious people with philosophers and day time talk shows, and I would agree.

Yup, true I guess. And politics. Hmm there will always be pointless debates, but they are fun.

Please have mercy on me for my previous comment lol

Originally Posted by downquark1

Ah but in the US, "they" want intelligent design or sometimes creationism taught as science.

I agree with the of the rest of what you said.

Well that's in the US and it will always get short shrift from the US government because no one wants Science to be corrupted because at the end of the day Science is a huge money spinning subject.Nothing must get in the way of profit.

I'm pretty certain we will escape any such attempts here because the curriculum is decided by a central body which will decide on purely educational reasoning.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Well that's in the US and it will always get short shrift from the US government because no one wants Science to be corrupted because at the end of the day Science is a huge money spinning subject.Nothing must get in the way of profit.

I'm pretty certain we will escape any such attempts here because the curriculum is decided by a central body which will decide on purely educational reasoning.

Isn't it also right that they don't allow religious studies in State schools, perhaps if they did, people thousands of miles away that feel no effect from it and have no influence over it, might not need to debate it over the internet

[Russ]

So what about in faith schools? Any objections to creationism being taught there as a science?

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Well that's in the US and it will always get short shrift from the US government because no one wants Science to be corrupted because at the end of the day Science is a huge money spinning subject.Nothing must get in the way of profit.

Again I'm being pedantic but I made the same point to my math lecturer, he made the point that technology is the money maker. The subtle difference is sometimes science is knowledge for knowledge sake and has no application for profit. Evolution really has little potential for profit.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Replace 'people' with 'intolerance/ignorance' and you've got yourself a deal.

It's the smugness that gets me Russ, some people here could teach even the Catholics a thing or two about being smug

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Russ B

So what about in faith schools? Any objections to creationism being taught there as a science?

How long can the UK carry on teaching RE in schools before it starts to offend the other half of the class.