iPhone

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Gavin

It doesn't. The ringtone has to be on a pre-approved list of songs.

I'm liking my k800i more every day. The k850 with a 5mp camera global 3g and an acceleratometer or whatever the widgit is that tells the screen to turn automatically is looking better everyday.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chris T

With your background and experience of Macs, I'm genuinely amazed to see you posting something quite as misleading as this!

Didn't mean any disrespect to OSX. I love it as an OS (does a lot of things very nicely, and scales to low end hardware better than Windows).

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Didn't mean any disrespect to OSX. I love it as an OS (does a lot of things very nicely, and scales to low end hardware better than Windows).

I'm not looking for respect - just accuracy.

OSX is not a seven year old OS any more than Windows is a 12-year-old OS. When Apple got to ten, they changed the naming convention. 'Ten' is now a brand name, not a version number. We are actually on version 4 of 'Oh-Es-Ten', with version five soon to be released.

Each new release of the OS comes on average 12-24 months after the preceeding one, and that strategy, of producing more frequent, but less radical revisions, is one some have suggested MS should be adopting with Windows in the wake of the Vista debacle.

To add to Chris T's remarks, Microsoft are, or at least there was talk, of them adopting a cycle of more Windows releases that are less radical. Ideally, they wanted to do a release every 2 years...

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Originally Posted by Gavin

I do actually and I resent the implication. I read amongst others, Mac Rumours, ThinkSecret, and cross platform sites such as El Reg and Ars. I have also owned a G4 aluminium powerbook for some years. You should have noticed I have posted links to blogs and sites in this thread and the other iPhone thread.

Just because you don't like what I say doesn't give you the right to call me uneducated and uninformed.

Well where is the evidence of:

As I said, how Jobs has the balls to get away with it and sleep and night, I really don't know. He gets away with it legally because its stipulated in the EULA so he can charge what he wants, but it suprises me how many in the Mac community just keep supporting it.

Mac Rumors and Ars Technica are quite balanced. Mac Rumors rarely offers any commentry and instead sticks to posting news/rumors while Ars is completely balanced and certainly does not keep defending Apple. Think Secret are a rumor site. Cocoa Developers and other serious Mac users dislike Apples policy on many things.

And now we down to insults. Sad really, especially when you haven't read post 135...

Sorry but that was not a insult. It was a honest comment, that most of the Mac defend-everything-Apple fanatics tend to reside in forums and not anywhere people would take seriously. Maybe Pogue at the New York Times might be ultra-defensive of Apple.

Also, why make your comment

As I said, how Jobs has the balls to get away with it and sleep and night, I really don't know. He gets away with it legally because its stipulated in the EULA so he can charge what he wants, but it suprises me how many in the Mac community just keep supporting it.

If in post 135 you do mention that people are waking to some of Apples bad-business? The crap with the iPhone is quite a annoyance with the 'Mac community' and before that it was the perception that Apple was ignoring the Mac business in favour of the iPod business, which sort of died down after the Intel-Switch.

I not sure what else you want? Obviously Macs are liked by the community and they are not going to desend into constant bashing of products they like.