Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

[thenry]

I guess we've gone full circle then and Trump comes out on top...

Saudi Arabia said it would not establish ties with Israel without the creation of a Palestinian state, contradicting President Donald Trump's claim that Riyadh was not demanding a Palestinian homeland when he said the U.S. wants to take over the Gaza Strip.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...on-2025-02-05/

Not sure how Trump could take possession of the Gaza Strip?

Another "Forever War", like Afghanistan and Iraq?

[thenry]

Trump prides himself with no wars during his presidency

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure how Trump could take possession of the Gaza Strip?

Another "Forever War", like Afghanistan and Iraq?

I can't see how the US can just turn up and deport unwilling residents to countries that have not agreed to take them.

And who is the intended population of a US-owned Gaza going to be?

If he got through these impossible hurdles, the geography in Gaza makes it easier to occupy than entire countries, especially those like Afghanistan with lots of mountains.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I can't see how the US can just turn up and deport unwilling residents to countries that have not agreed to take them.

And who is the intended population of a US-owned Gaza going to be?

If he got through these impossible hurdles, the geography in Gaza makes it easier to occupy than entire countries, especially those like Afghanistan with lots of mountains.

If this happens, which it won't, it will be via Israel as a proxy. They have the intel, boots on the ground and most importantly, the MAGA folks won't mind Israeli troops dying in the attempt.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by thenry

Trump prides himself with no wars during his presidency

Wasn't this factually incorrect?

[thenry]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Wasn't this factually incorrect?

How?

He's President, and there is a war in Ukraine ?

Perhaps he means no wars (directly) involving the US.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by thenry

How?

Because it's not true, dozens of US service people died in combat in Afghanistan during his presidency, they also escalated wars in Yemen and Syria, the former at least resulted in more US deaths.

[thenry]

It took time to withdraw from Afghanistan. And although air strikes are classed as an act of war there wasn't any boots on the ground in Syria or Yemen ?

Originally Posted by thenry

It took time to withdraw from Afghanistan. And although air strikes are classed as an act of war there wasn't any boots on the ground in Syria or Yemen ?

March 2017: Regular U.S. forces arrive and the Battle of Tabqa

U.S. special operations forces near Manbij, acting as advisors to the Syrian Democratic Forces, March 2017

On 8 March, various news outlets reported that regular U.S. troops, part of an amphibious task force, left their ships in the Middle East and deployed to Syria to establish an outpost from which they can provide artillery support for U.S.-backed local forces who were preparing to assault Raqqa in a battle to liberate the city from ISIL control. The deployment marked a new escalation in the U.S.'s role in Syria and put more conventional U.S. troops on the ground, a role that, thus far, had primarily been filled by Special Operations units. The ground force was part of the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit; 400 U.S. Marines from the Battalion Landing Team 1st Battalion, 4th Marines were tasked to crew an artillery battery of M777 howitzers whilst additional infantrymen from the unit will provide security. Resupplies were to be handled by a detachment of the expeditionary force's combat logistics element. A defense official with direct knowledge of the operation said the Marines were flown from Djibouti to Kuwait and then into Syria. By then, there were 900 U.S. soldiers and Marines deployed to Syria in total (500 special forces troops were already on the ground to train and support the SDF); under the existing limits put in place by the Obama administration, the formal troop cap for Syria is 503 personnel, but commanders have the authority to temporarily exceed that limit to meet military requirements.

There were approximately 100 U.S. Army Rangers in Stryker vehicles and armored Humvees deployed in and around Manbij in northern Syria, U.S. officials said.

November 2018
On 1 November, the Coalition began a series of joint patrols with the Turkish Armed Forces along the frontlines of the Kurdish-controlled Manbij region and the Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army's territory. The move was seen as a part of a "roadmap" to ease tensions between the NATO ally and U.S. backed Kurdish forces, and reduce violence between Kurdish and Turkish-backed elements.[376]
On 21 November, U.S. Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis announced the U.S. would set up new observation posts along the Turkish border in northern Syria in order to reduce skirmishes between Turkish forces and armed Kurdish militants in the region such as the border clashes in late October-early November. Mattis affirmed that it was a co-operational endeavor with Turkey and it will not require additional U.S. troops to be deployed to Syria

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time...rian_civil_war

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by thenry

It took time to withdraw from Afghanistan. And although air strikes are classed as an act of war there wasn't any boots on the ground in Syria or Yemen ?

Americans were killed and wounded in Yemen, 29th January 2017, not sure why your trying to excuse his lies, the media does this all the time he didn’tmean it, it's just donny being donny, that man child is in arguably the most important job in the world and people excuse his shithousery daily, his words and actions have consequences and yet he's just given a pass

[thenry]

I'm not trying to excuse his actions. I'm not stuck up him. I just didn't think US personnel were on the ground in other areas in the region.

Was it this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port...017_January_29

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Americans were killed and wounded in Yemen, 29th January 2017, not sure why your trying to excuse his lies

Wind it back a few notches.
Just becasue YOU know something, doesnt mean everyone does.
It does not mean anyone is excusing anything, just more information was needed.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul

Wind it back a few notches.
Just becasue YOU know something, doesnt mean everyone does.
It does not mean anyone is excusing anything, just more information was needed.

It's not my intention to upset anyone and it's not a case of me knowing something, its more that I'm surprised anyone would take anything he says at face value, I mean what more does donnie have to do, 30000+ lies first time round, a convicted felon, a failed coup etc etc and people (especially the media) are still quoting his word as fact