[Merged] The Football Thread 2005/2006 Season

[akane1984]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I see 90% of man u fans still think they have to buy success and the solution isnt tactics and on the training pitch.

arent chelski buyin success???

[sherer]

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I thought they had taken them down and were asking for people to put new ones up? Maybe i was wrong going by what Yesman has said

i think what is happening is that during champions league games it just has boards showinh that stars pattern.. during league games we have sponsors boards there and whoever pays for those baords never get to see them as the banners are covering them.. so i think they take them away and then put them back for Euro games.. won't see them much more this season then..

will have a check next leage game i go to

the problem we have is that with Queiroz we are playing negative tactics and trying to hold onto leads.. we look far better going forwards than we ever have down trying to defend.. it's been the same the whole way through our history.. it was always a case of if you score 2 we will score 3.. now we have an ageing team who are being told to play differently to how they have their whole career and instead of playing 4-4-2 with wingers like we always have and been fluid we are now too narrow.. we never replaced Beckham and the only winger we have is Giggs who has been off form for 2 and a half years.. played as a striker as well and too old to go past anyone

our younsters aren't quite there yet, although i don't think they can do any worse than what we have and should be given a chance. Rossi, Pique look pretty good and we have a few others as well

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I see 90% of man u fans still think they have to buy success and the solution isnt tactics and on the training pitch.

Every team strengthens their team - but ones like Chelsea bring in handfuls of new players and if they don't work, they just throw them away like a kid in a sweetshop sampling the ones he likes.

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by sherer

i think what is happening is that during champions league games it just has boards showinh that stars pattern.. during league games we have sponsors boards there and whoever pays for those baords never get to see them as the banners are covering them.. so i think they take them away and then put them back for Euro games.. won't see them much more this season then..

Theres a very interesting article on wikipedia about it.

It says that supporters took them down at first because of the building work in the stadium and then refused to put them back up as a sign of protest over the Glazer takeover.

It also has a list of the new ones that have been put up, my favourite being "Blue Nose day comic relief for 29 yrs" that was put up against city.

Link

[sherer]

Originally Posted by Russ D

Every team strengthens their team - but ones like Chelsea bring in handfuls of new players and if they don't work, they just throw them away like a kid in a sweetshop sampling the ones he likes.

unless they called Winston Bogard then they stay for 4 years getting payed load of money a week for doing nothing

[akane1984]

Originally Posted by sherer

i think what is happening is that during champions league games it just has boards showinh that stars pattern.. during league games we have sponsors boards there and whoever pays for those baords never get to see them as the banners are covering them.. so i think they take them away and then put them back for Euro games.. won't see them much more this season then..

will have a check next leage game i go to

the problem we have is that with Queiroz we are playing negative tactics and trying to hold onto leads.. we look far better going forwards than we ever have down trying to defend.. it's been the same the whole way through our history.. it was always a case of if you score 2 we will score 3.. now we have an ageing team who are being told to play differently to how they have their whole career and instead of playing 4-4-2 with wingers like we always have and been fluid we are now too narrow.. we never replaced Beckham and the only winger we have is Giggs who has been off form for 2 and a half years.. played as a striker as well and too old to go past anyone

our younsters aren't quite there yet, although i don't think they can do any worse than what we have and should be given a chance. Rossi, Pique look pretty good and we have a few others as well

agreed on all but giggs, i think giggs is one of Utds best performers when hes in the team hes always lively and always turning defenders heads. With age his injuries have become more frequent but if he can get a run in team him on left ronaldo on right and ability for them to switch wings we would be on right track.

i agree the problem is being too defensive and being happy with 1-0s when we cant even hold them.

we still need a few top class central midfielders. and what wingers can we get

[sherer]

will have to disagree on Giggs.. for over 2 years he hasn't beaten any defenders at all.. most of the time he rus quickly into a defender and looses the ball.. if he is lucky he will run into a defender and the ball may come loose and ge gets past them but 9 times out of 10 he looses the ball.. he doesn't do runs and beat players like he used to.. if he had just come into the team and was 20 and had never had them years to 99 all of us would be stating he is rubbish and shouldn't be in the team.. forget the past and look at what they are doing now.. Giggs and Scholes can't perform for the team any more and need to be replaced.. we have some youngsters in the squad and reserves who could do just as good a job as they are doing now

[Nugget]

Shocking news from Portsmouth - I honestly didn't see this one coming

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...649721,00.html

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Nugget

Shocking news from Portsmouth - I honestly didn't see this one coming

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...649721,00.html

A very sad day for football. He needed to stay there a good while longer to finish the excellent job he was doing.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Julian

A very sad day for football. He needed to stay there a good while longer to finish the excellent job he was doing.

Excellent? You're not a Southampton fan are you?

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Can anyone clarify something for me. Everyone is saying that Liverpool and Chelsea are defianetly through to the next stage of Champions League. Looking at the table chelsea have 10 pts and Real Betis have 7. If real betis win their next game 4-0 and chelsea loose 5-0 then wouldnt betis go through on goal difference? I know its unlikely but how can Chelsea definately be true. Dont get me wrong, I love Chelsea to bits but this has been bugging me all morning

Am I being stupid by over looking some glaring fact?

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Can anyone clarify something for me. Everyone is saying that Liverpool and Chelsea are defianetly through to the next stage of Champions League. Looking at the table chelsea have 10 pts and Real Betis have 7. If real betis win their next game 4-0 and chelsea loose 5-0 then wouldnt betis go through on goal difference? I know its unlikely but how can Chelsea definately be true. Dont get me wrong, I love Chelsea to bits but this has been bugging me all morning

Am I being stupid by over looking some glaring fact?

Its not worked out on goal difference. Rather on results between the two teams.

[sherer]

because the table isn's a league table like in the prem.. if two teams are tied then the rules state that it goes to the old European CUp format..i.e the two results from Chelsea and Betis count before goal difference so that would give an aggregate win of 2-1 to Chelsea and they would go through even if their actually goal diff was worse than Betis

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Doh! thatnks for clearing that up for me. I thought i was going mad

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Doh! thatnks for clearing that up for me. I thought i was going mad

Don't worry - you're still going mad. You've just got one less thing to worry about on the way