Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
05-05-2017, 10:28
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
I thunk things are getting a little antagonistic on both sides at the moment. Surely the correct response to a proposed 100bn bill would be 'show me your working and we'll talk', not just 'no'. And vice versa, it shows a degree of naivety to think that dropping such a figure would go down well
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The 100bn figure really helped floor Le Pen in the recent debate she had with Macron. She was unable to answer the question he raised about how much a French exit from the EU and Eurozone would cost if the British one cost 80bn for just leaving the EU let alone the Eurozone!
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Whatever the figure, people are now realising that Brexit is going to affect their own finances significantly. We've already seen the early affects, inflation, weak pound, stagnating wages. It's Brexiters that are the ones who seem to be 'angry' atm, despite having 'won'. Maybe they are only just realising the consequences.
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If things continue to get tighter, they're already rehearsing their lines. Expect to hear:
- The corrupt elitist EU's is punishing us for wanting our sovereignty back. That's why we need to have nothing to do with the sinking ship.
- Everyone should have voted Conservative to give Theresa the authority she needs. It's those traitors who voted for the roll-over Labour and Lib Dem parties who lost us the negotiations, not the crack SAS team of David Davis et al.
- It's a very small price for the next generation to pay so that they're not part of the United States of Europe dominated by the new EU member state of Turkey.
- Get over it remoaners. If you're so unhappy here, why not move to your beloved Brussels?
- We always said it wouldn't be pain free. This is just a temporary ten-year adjustment hiccup.
- These higher prices/lower growth/shops closing down would have happened anyway.
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05-05-2017, 10:49
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by Mr K
I'd give them Farage, Ant and/or Dec, Phil Collins, Jim Davison, Jimmy Tarbuck, Piers Morgan, Jeremy Hunt and Katie Hopkins. It'd be a win/win and almost make Brexit worth it
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That's the first positive thing you've said in this thread!
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
The 100bn figure really helped floor Le Pen in the recent debate she had with Macron. She was unable to answer the question he raised about how much a French exit from the EU and Eurozone would cost if the British one cost 80bn for just leaving the EU let alone the Eurozone!
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If things continue to get tighter, they're already rehearsing their lines. Expect to hear:
- The corrupt elitist EU's is punishing us for wanting our sovereignty back. That's why we need to have nothing to do with the sinking ship.
- Everyone should have voted Conservative to give Theresa the authority she needs. It's those traitors who voted for the roll-over Labour and Lib Dem parties who lost us the negotiations, not the crack SAS team of David Davis et al.
- It's a very small price for the next generation to pay so that they're not part of the United States of Europe dominated by the new EU member state of Turkey.
- Get over it remoaners. If you're so unhappy here, why not move to your beloved Brussels?
- We always said it wouldn't be pain free. This is just a temporary ten-year adjustment hiccup.
- These higher prices/lower growth/shops closing down would have happened anyway.
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The British economy is doing pretty well, despite the pure negativity of remoaners.
As for the 100bn , I have yet to hear anyone justify that stupid figure. If the EU negotiators continue to press for that, we should say we are expecting the 100bn to be offset by our claim against them for 200bn.
Maybe then we can start to get real and discuss actuals.
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05-05-2017, 11:05
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
'You own NOTHING' Brussels insists net payer Britain has 'no right' to share of EU assets
if we have no assets in this divorce then we have no liability to pay anything
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...russels-assets
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05-05-2017, 11:09
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
Don't forget who is running the negotiations. Who benefits? Follow the money.
Lawyers/"civil" servants/politcos who are being paid while the negotiations go on will want to draw it out, make it as complex and conflicting as possible. The more they can get in the more they can make out of it, on both sides. Even betting someone is going to be paid a percentage of any final deal value so will do their best to increase the amount regardless.
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05-05-2017, 11:34
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Whatever the figure, people are now realising that Brexit is going to affect their own finances significantly.
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When I was campaigning for Leave, I always said that it could affect our finances. That was always on the cards. We will see if it does.
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05-05-2017, 11:47
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
If things continue to get tighter, they're already rehearsing their lines. Expect to hear:
- The corrupt elitist EU's is punishing us for wanting our sovereignty back. That's why we need to have nothing to do with the sinking ship.
- Everyone should have voted Conservative to give Theresa the authority she needs. It's those traitors who voted for the roll-over Labour and Lib Dem parties who lost us the negotiations, not the crack SAS team of David Davis et al.
- It's a very small price for the next generation to pay so that they're not part of the United States of Europe dominated by the new EU member state of Turkey.
- Get over it remoaners. If you're so unhappy here, why not move to your beloved Brussels?
- We always said it wouldn't be pain free. This is just a temporary ten-year adjustment hiccup.
- These higher prices/lower growth/shops closing down would have happened anyway.
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Wow, I can read between the lines Andrew; I can just tell... you're so close to becoming a Leave supporter
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05-05-2017, 11:55
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
When I was campaigning for Leave, I always said that it could affect our finances. That was always on the cards. We will see if it does.
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... and of course there's no cost or threat to the UK's finances (or anything else) of staying in the EU is there. No evidence at all. No evidence of mass unemployment in Spain and Greece or massive banking problems in Italy. No massive migration crisis undermining all that EU unity we're missing out on. No rogue states erecting fences and ignoring EU immigration diktats. No rise of extreme right wing politics. Nope, it's all good news over there and bad news over here and that's today's news from cloud cuckoo land...
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05-05-2017, 12:01
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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And it gets the rabid Brexiteers in a tizzy, leading them to over the top hyperbole,
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Remainers know all about over the top hyperbole: link
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05-05-2017, 12:08
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Ahh yes, the old World War 3 phase of project fear. That was good.
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05-05-2017, 12:22
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Ahh yes, the old World War 3 phase of project fear. That was good.
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Wasn't it? That's when I realised just how desperate Remain was
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05-05-2017, 12:27
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Wasn't it? That's when I realised just how desperate Remain was
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Yes, well the threat of economic meltdown, emergency budgets and imminent tax rises didn't do the trick so they needed the prospect of global armageddon to get us to see their version of sense you see...
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05-05-2017, 14:10
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
it goes down well with the sell outs they would give the EU any thing it wants ,money /sovereignty/ kidney /first born child no price is too high to sell out the UK .
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Originally Posted by Hugh
And it gets the rabid Brexiteers in a tizzy, leading them to over the top hyperbole, offering to sacrifice their first born child* in the pursuit of purity of purpose and a rock-hard Brexit....
*tbf, it's usually someone else's first born child...
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Remainers know all about over the top hyperbole: link
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I was referring to bluey's post....
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05-05-2017, 15:09
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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I was referring to bluey's post....
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I know that you were. My post was meant to illustrate how Remain were way ahead of Leave when it comes to over the top hyperbole
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05-05-2017, 18:11
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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I know that you were. My post was meant to illustrate how Remain were way ahead of Leave when it comes to over the top hyperbole
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Has Turkey joined the EU yet?
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05-05-2017, 18:14
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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I know that you were. My post was meant to illustrate how Remain were way ahead of Leave when it comes to over the top hyperbole
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err I really hate to mention it again (!) but leavers did every day of the campaign -- £350million a week for the NHS -- you don't get much bigger hyperbole/outright lies than that.
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