08-04-2025, 11:03
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Re: President Trump 2.0
In the market buying but I'm in for the long term ,, whether I have that long is a different question! Best example parents bought a house for £200 in the 50,s I sold it last year for just over a million. It's still a bargain, looked at it a Web site valued at 1.2 million as of today!
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08-04-2025, 14:53
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by jfman
It’s a success now everyone has got used to it. That’s how this short term judgement based on 12 hours of global stock market activity works right, no?
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Well, no, because at some point, the stock market stabilises. The tariffs already announced are now priced into the market, which has dropped around 10%.
The 2008 crash wasn't a success when the market stopped bleeding.
The second-order effects of the tariffs might still be to come. Inflation, recession, a slowdown in hiring from companies worried about cash flow and income and less credit being available.
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08-04-2025, 15:04
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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Originally Posted by Damien
Well, no, because at some point, the stock market stabilises. The tariffs already announced are now priced into the market, which has dropped around 10%.
The 2008 crash wasn't a success when the market stopped bleeding.
The second-order effects of the tariffs might still be to come. Inflation, recession, a slowdown in hiring from companies worried about cash flow and income and less credit being available.
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I was being facetious. The markets were always going to react badly to disruption of the status quo, and such short term hysteria about them in windows of a few days unhelpful for anyone wanting to deliver anything other than the status quo.
All of the above might happen and if they do it’ll allow more informed conclusions to be made in the months and years ahead.
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08-04-2025, 23:37
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Re: President Trump 2.0
They finished down again after Trump, unprompted, start boasting about tariffs again when the market was 2/3% up. Is he intentionally trying to crash it?
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08-04-2025, 23:55
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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They finished down again after Trump, unprompted, start boasting about tariffs again when the market was 2/3% up. Is he intentionally trying to crash it?
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Bonds are falling, gold is falling, oil is falling, stocks are falling - this almost NEVER happens; there is always a safe haven (until now…)
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09-04-2025, 00:50
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Yeah, pension took a bigger hit today. He's a completely out of control twonker.
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09-04-2025, 08:36
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Trump being very Presidential at the National Republican Congressional Committee Dinner last night.
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I'm telling you, these countries are calling us up kissing my ass. They are. They are dying to make a deal.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2729968.html
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09-04-2025, 09:03
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Re: President Trump 2.0
i look forward to 6pm when little Heidi Hitler spews trumps lies and drivel
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09-04-2025, 09:14
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Re: President Trump 2.0
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i look forward to 6pm when little Heidi Hitler spews trumps lies and drivel
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Well, those Markets aren’t going to crash themselves…
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09-04-2025, 09:17
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Re: President Trump 2.0
When gold falls, I point out that at the bottom line, you can’t eat gold. A market standard in tinned spinach, for example, might be useful!
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09-04-2025, 18:34
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Re: President Trump 2.0
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cp8v...b16935456#post
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"Based on the lack of respect that China has shown to the World’s Markets, I am hereby raising the Tariff charged to China by the United States of America to 125%, effective immediately.
At some point, hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the days of ripping off the U.S.A., and other Countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable.
"Conversely, and based on the fact that more than 75 Countries have called Representatives of the United States, including the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and the USTR, to negotiate a solution to the subjects being discussed relative to Trade, Trade Barriers, Tariffs, Currency Manipulation, and Non Monetary Tariffs, and that these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape, or form against the United States, I have authorized a 90 day PAUSE, and a substantially lowered Reciprocal Tariff during this period, of 10%, also effective immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"
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Love to see who sold high, and then bought at the bottom of the Market just before this announcement…
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09-04-2025, 18:44
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Whack tariffs up even more on China as ‘dead cat’ cover for retreating from the worst of what he thought he could get away with elsewhere. Colour me surprised.
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09-04-2025, 19:03
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Re: President Trump 2.0
I was taught this on various "how to deliver" workshops/courses
This is Trump’s version…
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09-04-2025, 19:08
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Re: President Trump 2.0
yesterday the world allegedly was trying to kiss Trumps arse begging for deals , now he caves in, and sends out little Heidi Hitler to spin it as a victory, what a total nob this man is.
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09-04-2025, 19:38
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Re: President Trump 2.0
Point of information
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...ina-rcna200346
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Bessent said a universal 10% tariff will remain for all countries whose goods are imported into the U.S. Tariffs will also remain in place on imported vehicles and steel and aluminum.
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"The tariffs are paused!!!"
Narrator: "The tariffs were not paused."
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