14-12-2020, 16:54
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Re: Coronavirus
Three Rivers Tier 3 (from Wednesday) checking in *sigh*
Oh well, scrubbed any Christmas get together anyway...
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14-12-2020, 17:04
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by denphone
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London/South/South East still needing to be special...
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Well now that London is impacted i am suddenly not sure this tier system is a great idea....
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Enjoy !!
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14-12-2020, 23:25
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Re: Coronavirus
Interesting snippet on a news article about the vaccine rollout ;
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The NHS is recruiting 30,000 volunteers to help with the rollout, including lifeguards, airline staff and students - who will be trained to give the jabs.
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15-12-2020, 09:27
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Re: Coronavirus
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Pre-existing social inequalities contributed to the UK recording the highest death rates from Covid in Europe, a leading authority on public health has said, warning that many children’s lives would be permanently blighted if the problem is not tackled.
Sir Michael Marmot, known for his landmark work on the social determinants of health, argued in a new report that families at the bottom of the social and economic scale were missing out before the pandemic, and were now suffering even more, losing health, jobs, lives and educational opportunities.
In the report, Build Back Fairer, Marmot said these social inequalities must be addressed whatever the cost and it was not enough to revert to how things before the pandemic. “We can’t afford not to do it,” he said.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...droidApp_Other
Wonder if this Govt will take any notice? Answers on a postcard....
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15-12-2020, 10:24
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mr K
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Utter garbage.
Men in general were more affected than women, where does that come into it. Twice as much, across all groups. Iran was badly affected, including senior government officials. The richer Northern part of Italy was affected more than the poorer South. In the UK hospital consultants not exactly on poverty pay were badly affected. In the UK and the US, Hasidic/Orthodox Jews were badly affected.
The biggest factor was people's behaviour, particularly of still insisting on gathering in large groups.
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15-12-2020, 10:33
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Utter garbage.
Men in general were more affected than women, where does that come into it. Twice as much, across all groups. Iran was badly affected, including senior government officials. The richer Northern part of Italy was affected more than the poorer South. In the UK hospital consultants not exactly on poverty pay were badly affected. In the UK and the US, Hasidic/Orthodox Jews were badly affected.
The biggest factor was people's behaviour, particularly of still insisting on gathering in large groups.
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Absolutely right.
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15-12-2020, 10:46
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mr K
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking
Utter garbage.
Men in general were more affected than women, where does that come into it. Twice as much, across all groups. Iran was badly affected, including senior government officials. The richer Northern part of Italy was affected more than the poorer South. In the UK hospital consultants not exactly on poverty pay were badly affected. In the UK and the US, Hasidic/Orthodox Jews were badly affected.
The biggest factor was people's behaviour, particularly of still insisting on gathering in large groups.
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It’s not an either/or situation - both scenarios can be valid.
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15-12-2020, 10:54
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Hugh
It’s not an either/or situation - both scenarios can be valid.
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The assumption of this nonsense report is that there were no other factors. Hasidic/Orthodox Jews are an obvious publicised example(eg New York) of people still gathering in large groups. There have been several documented instances from around the world, where there have been multiple infections and deaths arising from large gatherings, especially religious ones(of whatever religion).
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15-12-2020, 11:02
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Re: Coronavirus
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Quote from The Sun: Scientists have also warned against a mad dash to close down schools which have taken steps to be Covid secure.
They said teens could end up being a bigger danger to the public if they are chucked out of classes and left to their own devices.
Deputy Chief Medical Officer Jenny Harries said shutting schools early “would do more harm than good”. She told MPs in a Zoom briefing that the behaviour of teenagers “can be somewhat controlled” in schools that are Covid secure.
She said: “If they’re not in school, they are likely to mix anyway without a responsible adult to intervene”.
Health chiefs are understood to be ramping up testing plans amid growing fears that older children are fuelling the rocketing infection rates across the South East.
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But they still crucify the hospitality sector with precious little evidence that that will tame the spread.
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15-12-2020, 11:06
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Re: Coronavirus
The two prominent Medical Journals say the United Kingdom should ban Christmas household mixing.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d&cmpId=google
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The British Medical Journal and Health Service Journal said in a rare joint editorial that the government’s plan to relax social-distancing rules for five days over Christmas will boost coronavirus infections and risk further straining the health service.
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l absolutely agree as relaxing social-distancing rules for five days over Christmas to allow Christmas household mixing is a recipe for disaster.
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15-12-2020, 11:10
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Re: Coronavirus
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The Governmnt know full well that people would just ignore such a ban.
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15-12-2020, 11:13
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Re: Coronavirus
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The Governmnt know full well that people would just ignore such a ban.
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Then those who do should accept the possible consequences of their actions as the virus won't be taking a 5 day Christmas holiday that is for sure..
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15-12-2020, 11:15
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
But they still crucify the hospitality sector with precious little evidence that that will tame the spread.
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Well something is spreading it.
Several documented examples of where gatherings of one sort or another has led to infections and deaths amongst that gathering. Another big part of the problem is "give people an inch and they will take a mile". Allow small gatherings and that morphs into gatherings of 100 or more.
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15-12-2020, 11:27
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Re: Coronavirus
Maybe it's time to do away with Christmas altogether, apart from a minority it's nothing to do with religion, just an excuse to throw money around trying to impress people.
Anyway, if people want to isolate they will do, if they don't want to isolate you'll be hard pushed to prevent it . . .
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15-12-2020, 11:28
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Well something is spreading it.
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Quote from Sky News: The contact-tracing app for England and Wales has only sent one alert about a coronavirus outbreak in a venue since it was launched two weeks ago, despite being used for millions of check-ins, Sky News has learned.
Department of Health officials said that the system was still in its infancy and was not expected to be used frequently.
But with mass closures of pubs and bars expected in parts of the country, the absence of targeted venue alerts has raised questions about the government's strategy.
Shadow digital minister Chi Onwurah said: "On the one hand, at a government briefing on local data I'm told pubs are the primary location for common COVID exposure, on the other that the contact-tracing app has only sent out one alert about an outbreak in a venue.
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Clearly NOT hospitality. IIRC 38% of cases are at Uni's and another 38% related to schools.
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