23-06-2021, 18:08
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Re: Britain outside the EU
If no "border" is imposed (with no checks by U.K. on goods coming in from the EU (Ireland)), WTO Most Favored Nation rule means that the U.K. cannot have checks on goods coming from any country.
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Trade without discrimination
1. Most-favoured-nation (MFN): treating other people equally Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members.
This principle is known as most-favoured-nation (MFN) treatment (see box). It is so important that it is the first article of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which governs trade in goods.
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23-06-2021, 18:22
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Re: Britain outside the EU
EU have informally approved the extension request
https://apple.news/ArGLOBJoYQZunioQQZ22qcQ
Such nastiness
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23-06-2021, 19:10
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Hugh
If no "border" is imposed (with no checks by U.K. on goods coming in from the EU (Ireland)), WTO Most Favored Nation rule means that the U.K. cannot have checks on goods coming from any country.
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23-06-2021, 19:13
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Re: Britain outside the EU
all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.
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23-06-2021, 20:21
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?
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23-06-2021, 20:30
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?
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In the knacker's yard?
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23-06-2021, 20:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?
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In the same boat as the Budgie smugglers.
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23-06-2021, 20:40
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.
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You've missed a few. Add peace in Ireland. Add peace in GB. Add the integrity of the GB single market. Add the integrity of the European single market.
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23-06-2021, 20:42
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
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23-06-2021, 20:48
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
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I'll drink to that
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23-06-2021, 20:50
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
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Well said.
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23-06-2021, 20:52
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.
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Should the UK just ignore the WTO?
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Trade without discrimination
1. Most-favoured-nation (MFN): treating other people equally Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members.
This principle is known as most-favoured-nation (MFN) treatment (see box). It is so important that it is the first article of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which governs trade in goods.
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23-06-2021, 20:55
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Should the UK just ignore the WTO?
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… and sod that too. The territorial integrity of the UK and its internal market has nothing to do with the WTO.
As if you didn’t know.
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23-06-2021, 21:11
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Re: Britain outside the EU
It does when there is a contiguous border with another country - ignoring it won’t make it go away.
If we want trade agreements with other countries, telling the WTO to "sod off" is a sub-optimal approach.
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23-06-2021, 21:27
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.
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No such market to sod.
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Originally Posted by Hugh
It does when there is a contiguous border with another country - ignoring it won’t make it go away.
If we want trade agreements with other countries, telling the WTO to "sod off" is a sub-optimal approach.
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Yup, we're in the realms of fantasy politics if such approaches were ever taken!
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