The anyone but England thread! - Page 10

Legendary_PSR · 09-06-2006, 21:17

yeah, you were given the option of take part in the 3rd round or not at all. you chose "Not at all"

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But they have also demonstrated that they won't give the same coverage to all home nations - just the ones beginning with 'E' and that's what I object to - my money is as good as yours, why shouldn't my national team get equal coverage? As I've said, when all 4 countries play, why should yours get prominance over mine?

probably due to the huge difference in ability in the teams

i would like to add though, at least england win stuff occasionally, so they deserve some coverage. i find it for more annoying when the paper is full of crap about how "henman will win wimbledon this year"(despite being absolute rubbish) or that jenson button "is favourite to win the driver's championship this year" when he has yet to win a single race in a car that would win a race with a good driver in

Mal · 09-06-2006, 21:20

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If I remember correctly we weren't excluded, we just withdrew.

Excluded or withdrew, the fact is it was big news at the time.

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In any case, United's appeal goes throughout the UK, the supporters are probably evenly spread throughout the whole British Isles - but England's appeal is not as widespread.

When Liverpool won the Champion's Cup, that was given a lot of coverage - no problem there, the media have demonstrated they'll give such coverage to any team which does as well as them

But they have also demonstrated that they won't give the same coverage to all home nations - just the ones beginning with 'E' and that's what I object to - my money is as good as yours, why shouldn't my national team get equal coverage? As I've said, when all 4 countries play, why should yours get prominance over mine?

That's fair enough. I'm English, living in England, so I can't say what the media is like in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. All in all, we aren't the media, so it is no good moaning to us. Set up a protest group and lobby the media and government

pedantic · 09-06-2006, 22:00

IIRC our "withdrawal" from the FA cup was at the request of the FA, something they denied later. Hence all the press coverage there was. To say our support is "evenly" spread, is dillusional, and something I would expect a City fan to say, quite frankly. And if the Welsh league was more prominent, there would be no need to infultrate another country's league. I'm well aware, we have a national (and international) appeal, but let's not too excited about where the hardcore support lies.

gazzae · 09-06-2006, 22:42

Yep it was the request of the government and the FA. They were in the running for hosting the World Cup so they had to keep in FIFA's good books by making sure Utd went to the World Club Championships.

Legendary_PSR · 09-06-2006, 22:49

worked out so well for everyone involved

Russ · 09-06-2006, 23:36

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i would like to add though, at least england win stuff occasionally, so they deserve some coverage.

Are you people deliberately trying not to see the point??

No-one is saying England don't deserve coverage. IMO all home nations deserve coverage. But regardless of how important a game might be to the other nations, the England match will always get more coverage and this as I'm sure you will agree is completely unfair.

pedantic · 10-06-2006, 01:00

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Are you people deliberately trying not to see the point??

No-one is saying England don't deserve coverage. IMO all home nations deserve coverage. But regardless of how important a game might be to the other nations, the England match will always get more coverage and this as I'm sure you will agree is completely unfair.

The thing is Russ, we DO see the point. As Mal pointed out, it's not our fault all the other home nations focus on Englands coverage is it ? It would probably bother me too in your's, and other home nations position, but that's hardly a stand point to dislike other home nations. Maybe it's long overdue, to lobby the powers that be, instead of chastising people who's hands it is out of.

carlingman · 10-06-2006, 02:17

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Again! Rather than face up to the fact your team will fail yet again, you attack my team - which is a bit of a cheap shot seeing as this thread is about the World Cup!

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Us taffs have to stick together.

Never mind Russ, look on the bright side it has been 40 Years since England won the World Cup and in a Months time it will be 40 Years and one Month since England won the World Cup.

And I also think it stinks the amount of coverage they get throughout this.

FFS unrelated to Football but Wales (Rugby) are playing Argentina this weekend along with England, Ireland and Scotland.

Now then are Wales the forgotten nation as the only game you cannot see on Sky is the Welsh game and the only place to watch this is on S4C Wales (not all of us taffs speak welsh) and S4C Wales is not available on Sky so we are banished to our other TVs that can receive S4C via normal TV Aerial.

Russ · 10-06-2006, 07:35

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The thing is Russ, we DO see the point.

I'm not so sure, seeing OB reckons it's because we're 'jealous'.

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As Mal pointed out, it's not our fault all the other home nations focus on Englands coverage is it ?

I know - and I've not blamed you guys at all!

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It would probably bother me too in your's, and other home nations position, but that's hardly a stand point to dislike other home nations.

I don't dislike England, the English (after all, why would I dislike my own father??

), it's fans or national teams of any sport.

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Maybe it's long overdue, to lobby the powers that be, instead of chastising people who's hands it is out of.

Not chastising anyone! Just giving my opinions on a discussion board!

10-06-2006, 10:25

I'll tell you something I love football but this world cup thing is getting on my nerves, it's been rammed down our throats now for well over 3 months. I'm not a firm fan of the national team or the FA the both of them can go to hell for all I care, I'd sooner watch my local team Mansfield Town.

pedantic · 10-06-2006, 20:51

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I'm not so sure, seeing OB reckons it's because we're 'jealous'.

I can't speak for OB, maybe she thought the thread title was a little provocative.

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Not chastising anyone! Just giving my opinions on a discussion board!

As am I, long may that continue.

**Chris** · 12-06-2006, 12:39

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Now then are Wales the forgotten nation as the only game you cannot see on Sky is the Welsh game and the only place to watch this is on S4C Wales (not all of us taffs speak welsh) and S4C Wales is not available on Sky so we are banished to our other TVs that can receive S4C via normal TV Aerial.

What's the S4C Digidol channel I have on my Sky service then?

12-06-2006, 12:48

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What's the S4C Digidol channel I have on my Sky service then?

a digidol - ntl are definitely lagging behind if Sky are offering that kind of interface

bluenote492000 · 12-06-2006, 17:56

Trinidad & Tobago plays England on Thursday.

Russ · 12-06-2006, 22:46

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What's the S4C Digidol channel I have on my Sky service then?

A really odd version of S4C.