Trafalgar Square's fourth plinth - Page 10

Ramrod · 16-09-2005, 11:18

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

But why?

See my posts above

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BTW - what did that photoshopped image of Michaelangelo's David have to do with it?

Thats an example of how we can have an attractive nude.......

16-09-2005, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

but Trafalgar square is imo not the place to be making pc statements or statements about art/femininity/disability.....

So where would be an appropriate place for that?

Or, what would be an appropriate statement to be made in Trafalgar Square?
That London got the 2012 Olympics?
Or that the England cricket team got lucky?

etccarmageddon · 16-09-2005, 11:19

I think there's more important things to get offended by or to consider morally repugnant - as stated previously there is an element of society that walks all over disabled peoples rights by using parking facilties set aside for the less able. That's what should be getting the newspaper articles/discussion, not this piece of art.

16-09-2005, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Thats an example of how we can have an attractive nude.......

Each to their own. I prefer women...

Ramrod · 16-09-2005, 11:19

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

That's not the reason why it is considered great.

Doh! Really?

etccarmageddon · 16-09-2005, 11:25

in this day and age that's a brave step for a man to admit to preferring women!

Jules · 16-09-2005, 11:25

I think we have a lot of famous people in our history that this country owes a lot to that could have had there statue put there then it would be in keeping with Nelson etc

16-09-2005, 11:25

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

See my posts above

I did, and so far all I can determine is that you think it is 'inappropriate' to have the statue in Trafalgar Square because you think it's not 'attractive'.

orangebird · 16-09-2005, 11:26

How about we stop being in debt to war heros etc just for a second, and celebrate a women who overcame some incredible odds for a change?

16-09-2005, 11:27

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in this day and age that's a brave step for a man to admit to preferring women!

I think I'll get away with it.
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How baout we stop being in debt to war heros etc just for a second, and celebrate a women who overcame some incredible odds for a change?

That gets my vote.

16-09-2005, 11:28

Dunno why they didnt build a memorial to those killed on 7/7 personally.

But in all honesty, I dont think a statue of a naked pregnant woman is up there with Nelson you know? It wont really bother me cos I hate London and wouldnt be going there anyway.

16-09-2005, 11:34

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Dunno why they didnt build a memorial to those killed on 7/7 personally.

Maybe they will, one day. Would be interesting to see where people think that should be sited...

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But in all honesty, I dont think a statue of a naked pregnant woman is up there with Nelson you know?

I don't think one is being compared with the other. However, at the same time, I feel that I have much more in common with Alison Lapper than I do with Nelson.

Ramrod · 16-09-2005, 11:48

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

For example?

What else could they have done? How about a (well proportioned) collection of multicultural nudes (but needent be nude)? A collection of statues of Sikh/'black'/white/muslim......depicting this islands diversity?
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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

I did, and so far all I can determine is that you think it is 'inappropriate' to have the statue in Trafalgar Square because you think it's not 'attractive'.

Thats right.it's my personal opinion.

.............but do you think she's attractive.........I know Michaelangelo wouldn't have got far in his career if he'd produced art like that.............
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Each to their own. I prefer women...

Same here but I'm capable of appreciating a well formed male nude as well..........
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Originally Posted by orangebird

How about we stop being in debt to war heros etc just for a second, and celebrate a women who overcame some incredible odds for a change?

No problem there..........I just think it's an innapropriate spot to make a statement like that.
(Why don't we just go the whole hog and do away with the lions and nelson as well...............we could have a different disabilty on each plinth-dwarfism (two types), marfans on another plinth, cerebral palsy on the 4th and the column could be topped by a statue of the superman actor in his wheelchair!)

orangebird · 16-09-2005, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Thats right.it's my personal opinion.

.............but do you think she's attractive.........I know Michaelangelo wouldn't have got far in his career if he'd produced art like that.............
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Michelangelo did loads of nude stuff....a lot more 'pictorial' than the Lapper statue too...

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

No problem there..........I just think it's an innapropriate spot to make a statement like that.
(Why don't we just go the whole hog and do away with the lions and nelson as well...............we could have a different disabilty on each plinth-dwarfism (two types), marfans on another plinth, cerebral palsy on the 4th and the column could be topped by a statue of the superman actor in his wheelchair!)

I like the lions and Nelsons column. No-one is suggesting that they're done away with. BUt I like the idea of 'rotating' the art displayed on the fourth plinth. Eventually all tastes should be catered for.

Ramrod · 16-09-2005, 12:00

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Originally Posted by orangebird

Michelangelo did loads of nude stuff....a lot more 'pictorial' than the Lapper statue too...

lol......I like nudes but they should really be somewhat attractive if they are going to be placed alongside the other 'heroic' art in thecenter of one of the worlds great cities.
I am not offended by her statue.........
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I like the lions and Nelsons column. No-one is suggesting that they're done away with. BUt I like the idea of 'rotating' the art displayed on the fourth plinth. Eventually all tastes should be catered for.

I'm non too keen on the next effort either............imo it's even less appropriate.....but at least it's not trying to be pc or confrontational.....