16-02-2016, 17:44
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
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Originally Posted by passingbat
Isn't one of the cited advantages of cloud recording, cheaper boxes? I.e. less hardware required, the obvious one being no need for hard drives.
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
When things are moved to the cloud isn't the processing done in the cloud ?
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Yes, cloud recording/playback isn't really any different from VOD as far as the STB is concerned. You ask the server for a programme and it gets streamed to you. In theory any VM STB made since 1999 could do it.
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16-02-2016, 19:06
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#137
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
The storage for cloud record would be huge. OK you could keep each program once and users tag the recording as theirs. Then you could stream updated ads into the recording as it is played. But you need to keep all recordings at least until the last customer deletes their link.
Issues though would include FF/Rew are usually less good on streamed content than local and at least local recording are still viewable in many circumstances when VOD services aren't.
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16-02-2016, 19:31
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#138
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
Then you could stream updated ads into the recording as it is played. .
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Interesting you mention adds. On a hard disc recording you can FF the adds. Would Fast forwarding even be an option for cloud recordings? Obviously it would depend on the deals worked out with the broadcaster, but I can see them wanting to hang on to adds
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16-02-2016, 19:39
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#139
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
Have the copyright issues regarding cloud "recording" been sorted out? I wasn't aware they were.
And as said, you don't really "record" the programme, the programme is already kept on the server, you just create a link. There won't be thousands of copies of the same programme kept on servers, so it really isn't any different to VOD now.
I would still prefer the option to keep recordings where ever I choose, not where a company decides. Especially if you then unsubscribe to a channel or the channel stops broadcasting and you find "your" recordings have been deleted. Meaning they were never yours to begin with.... I see no evidence that VM are going to go down that route unfortunately.
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16-02-2016, 20:00
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#140
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
Last time I read info on Cloud recordings it was claimed the platforms wanted to use a shared option (basically your provider would hold a copy of a particular show with all users accessing it) the other option was private where each user had an individual copy of each show they record.
A question if I may Spider what is the hold up with rights issues , I not asking you to give specific info I meaning in general for all providers.
It seems crazy when people like myself are prepared to pay for the content and just want the flexibility that cloud recordings bring.
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16-02-2016, 20:21
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#141
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
A question if I may Spider what is the hold up with rights issues , I not asking you to give specific info I meaning in general for all providers.
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I'm guessing paranoia and greed,
Content producers are scared people will find a way to extract the content and make it available for pirating, and they want to screw more money out of service providers for the privilege of distribution on a wider number of devices.
What else drives the entertainment industry? It certainly isn't an interest in the artistic side; well unless they can see dollar signs attached.
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16-02-2016, 21:16
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#142
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Media Watcher
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
Personally, I don't think we'll see cloud recording any time soon or in the near future either on VM or Sky.
I've been doing a few cloud things recently and have found the whole experience a pain in the neck. I suspect pay tv companies may be running into similar issues.
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16-02-2016, 22:09
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#143
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
A question if I may Spider what is the hold up with rights issues , I not asking you to give specific info I meaning in general for all providers.
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http://www.digitaltveurope.net/18318...say-operators/
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17-02-2016, 04:19
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#144
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
Looking at the link Spider has posted things don't bode well in my opinion..
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17-02-2016, 11:31
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
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Originally Posted by passingbat
Interesting you mention adds. On a hard disc recording you can FF the adds. Would Fast forwarding even be an option for cloud recordings? Obviously it would depend on the deals worked out with the broadcaster, but I can see them wanting to hang on to adds
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Yes, if ads are unskippable (if present at all) on the cloud, I will stick to recordings, thank you very much!
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17-02-2016, 11:51
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#146
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
This is probably the only 4K channel that Virgin Media will be able to get their hands on
http://advanced-television.com/2015/...hannel-for-uk/
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17-02-2016, 17:48
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#147
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer ?
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Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor
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Virgin, being owned by Liberty Global, can probably afford to get their hands on ANY 4k channel. They don't currently see a market for it. They may have a point. Most people would have only bought their HD sets in the last few years, they wont be looking to upgrade for a while.
Sky backing 4K does not mean it will succeed. Sky enthusiastically backed (and promoted) 3D, and how well did that do?
Don't get me wrong, I actually believe 4K will take off, it's just going to take a few years.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...pt-4k-ultra-hd
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17-02-2016, 17:52
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#148
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer????
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Originally Posted by Stephen
I see she is now at Vodafone.
Does that mean they are launching TV soon?
Sky Q does look awesome, especially the WiFi extender features.
Hope VM do something similar.
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http://thenextweb.com/uk/2015/11/10/...ext-year/#gref
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17-02-2016, 18:04
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#149
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer????
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Originally Posted by clinteastman
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I'm not sure if it will be the same as in Ireland but a TV product is already live there.
https://www.vodafone.ie/home/tv/
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17-02-2016, 18:09
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#150
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Re: Sky Q and VM answer????
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
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Right. Not sure, not been keeping up with the score!!
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