Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
06-10-2012, 21:56
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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Fairness to the accused...  |
Something that, according to what I've seen on Facebook and Twitter today, is considered old hat by many people.
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06-10-2012, 22:01
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
It seems a bit silly seeing the accused is under no obligation to actually answer?
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06-10-2012, 22:45
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
We might have jumped the gun on the Kay Burley/Sky News video, this is the full version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq9kFPknoqE
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07-10-2012, 06:12
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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Indeed ,the video i watched had the first bit snipped out ,
fancy that ,Kay Burley has been the victim of sensationalist media reporting 
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07-10-2012, 09:45
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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It seems a bit silly seeing the accused is under no obligation to actually answer?
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You think that's silly? You should see what a combination of the ECHR and the UK Supreme Court have done to Scots Law. In some cases the Police can't ask any questions to people until they've spoken to a lawyer. Even if they've refused legal representation!  
Anyway it'll be interesting to see if any further information is given out tomorrow at his court appearance or if he is just remanded straight to Crown Court.
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07-10-2012, 10:39
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
anyone arrested should no comment till they see a solicitor and even then depending on of the evidence no comment through the interview. We all know the CPS will not take a case to court where there is a fair chance they can lose so you should ride it out then plead guilty if you end up in court( and actually are guilty lol )
Anyone who speaks to the police without representation is either stupid naive or wants to admit it
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07-10-2012, 12:41
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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sobering thought. In 2009 /2010 in the UK there were 626 murders. In Texas in 2010 there were 1249 murders.There are over 2 times the number of people in the UK and Texas has the death penalty and uses it. So that shows the death penalty does not deter crime
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It certainly stops them re offending.
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07-10-2012, 13:06
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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It certainly stops them re offending.
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They don't need to re-offend. Texas seems to have more than enough murderers to replace those executed.
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08-10-2012, 16:48
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08-10-2012, 17:01
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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Anyway it'll be interesting to see if any further information is given out tomorrow at his court appearance or if he is just remanded straight to Crown Court.
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No new information just his confirmation of his name and address and that he understands the charges.
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He was remanded in custody in Manchester and will appear at Caernarfon Crown Court on Wednesday.
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http://www.itv.com/news/2012-10-08/m...aprils-murder/
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08-10-2012, 17:34
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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and i recommend you remove that first link completely out of order 
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08-10-2012, 17:50
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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I think it's harsh to give a prison sentence for that. I have long wanted internet trolls to face the consequences of their actions and had he been e-mailing, tweeting or otherwise communicating these messages directly to the family or friends of April Jones then I would understand it. However making comments, however sick, about the case doesn't warrant time in prison. That's a rather disturbing trend...
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08-10-2012, 17:58
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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I think it's harsh to give a prison sentence for that. I have long wanted internet trolls to face the consequences of their actions and had he been e-mailing, tweeting or otherwise communicating these messages directly to the family or friends of April Jones then I would understand it. However making comments, however sick, about the case doesn't warrant time in prison. That's a rather disturbing trend...
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similar cases where being discussed on the Jeremy Vine show last week and he had the attorney general in to explain when the police prosecute such cases .He said that each case is dealt with on a individual basis and a lot depends on how open to the world the comments are and in what context they where made .For example if these comments and jokes where directed to a close group of friends on an account that is private then it would be treated as a private conversation and most likely just a warning given .I think in this case there was some aggravating factor as well to do with comments he made about April aside from the jokes he printed
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08-10-2012, 18:20
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Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
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similar cases where being discussed on the Jeremy Vine show last week and he had the attorney general in to explain when the police prosecute such cases .He said that each case is dealt with on a individual basis and a lot depends on how open to the world the comments are and in what context they where made .For example if these comments and jokes where directed to a close group of friends on an account that is private then it would be treated as a private conversation and most likely just a warning given .I think in this case there was some aggravating factor as well to do with comments he made about April aside from the jokes he printed
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Yeah. I still wonder the benefit of prison terms for these cases. I can probably agree they should be prosecuted, maybe, but a community service order and/or a fine seems better. Putting someone in prison is a overreaction, we already have problems with overcrowding and putting someone inside a cell for comments they made on the internet is a step too far.
It's just part of a larger concern that we have more and more laws and less and less freedom.
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