"Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" - Page 10

22-09-2008, 13:03

Yet another policing on the cheap idea from a government that has done it's level best to hamstring our police forces and make it harder for them to do the job that we the public and many of the serving police officers want to do.

These days many people are very critical of the police and how they operate and berate them often for it but it really is time for us all to start putting the blame where it truly belongs on the incompetent, out of touch and arrogant politicians that have created such a god almighty mess of our criminal justice system.

People get behind our police officers don't have a go at them and lets work together to get things the way we all want them to be and let those that supposedly run our country see what we all want.

Osem · 22-09-2008, 13:16

Yes the Police get a lot of unfair stick IMO. The other day I heard a guy on the radio bemoaning the 'fact' that too many young black males are being stopped and searched for 'no good reason'. His contention was that it's all about racism yet nobody asked him what he felt the police should be doing to try to prevent more senseless murders in his community - a very high proportion of the vicitms and/or perpetrators of this particular type of crime are black after all. I think the police are in between a rock and a very hard place. They have been badly let down by the government and have an impossible juggling job to do given the resources/manpower they have and the bureaucracy/restrictions imposed upon them from above.

22-09-2008, 13:45

Given the situation at the minute it is virtually impossible for the police to do their job as they can't do right for doing wrong. I am also getting more and more angry with the routine way the racism card is bought into play as well.

There are genuine victims of racism and they need help and support to overcome that but the way racism is now thrown around i think there is growing apathy to it and that is hurting the genuine victims.

Derek · 26-09-2008, 13:35

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7637785.stm

Nice. Batter someone with a weapon for 5 hours and get away with saying you didn't intend to kill her.

Still 6 years inside isn't bad. Well not until he gets 1/2 off automatically plus the time on remand plus the "On you go, we don't have any room for you, be good now!" time off.

Out in 2 1/2 for a brutal killing of his partner and leaving her child orphaned.
Bit of a result for him.

Osem · 02-10-2008, 15:08

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/7648394.stm

18 months !!!!

**Damien** · 02-10-2008, 15:10

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Originally Posted by Osem

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/7648394.stm

18 months !!!!

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It emerged last month that Wyatt's father and brother are both serving prison sentences for murder.

Peter Wyatt, 53, was jailed for 14 years for strangling his lover Audrey Badger, 42, at her home in Thornabv in 2006.

Andrew Wyatt, 30, is nearing the end of a jail sentence for a baseball bat killing of Jason Milligan, 28, in the town in 1998.

Nice family

Derek · 02-10-2008, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Osem

18 months !!!!

Actually 9 months or less once automatic early release kicks in. If he was remanded at the time he'll be out about March-time. If the clock starts from September when he pled guilty he'll be enjoying Summer 2009 as a free man.

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It emerged last month that Wyatt's father and brother are both serving prison sentences for murder.

They sound a lovely family don't they?

shawty · 02-10-2008, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Damien

Nice family

Its dicusting. That happened 30 seconds from and the killer, I went to school with. When does manslaughter, not become manslaughter, but turns to murder. Its cases like this that should carry murder. Maybe the attacker never set out to kill someone that day. Maybe if he had punched him once and he fell awkward and died by hitting his head of the ground, then maybe that would be manslaughter. But to kick and punch someone to an ounce of there life turning the back of their head to mush over cigarettes carrys a life sentance to me.

It was in my street that his brother killed someone.

Ive got to say after reading the BBC article, it does not paint the picture that happened. The Police were actually pushing for murder.

All though another article states the same thing. What I head and everyonre else around the town, really does paint a different picture. They are not stating one punch. We all heard he got beat up quite badly.

Osem · 04-10-2008, 21:52

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/mostpop...girlfriend.php

Osem · 19-01-2009, 17:25

What sort of message do sentences like these send out to **** like this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7838298.stm

20-01-2009, 00:19

I take it that link is about the three **** that raped and tortured that young handicapped girl i heard on channel five news they got a whooping nine years a piece well they will feel really really punished for the sickening acts the committed won't they.

They should have been put away for the rest of their natural lives not given a completely pathetic nine years but thats modern UK we don't go hard on criminals anymore because they have rights and we must show what a civilised society we are by not being vengeful.

Personally i find that attitude offensive when we have complete and utter **** living in our society that first prey on the weak and they rely on the softness of our system to avoid any real punishment i can only hope there are some very burly men in the prison that will dole out some real justice seeing as our courts have now become totally detached from the principle of it.

Osem · 31-01-2009, 09:46

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/40...arms_offences/

3 x 18 month 'detention and training orders', to run concurrently of course (wouldn't want to keep him away from his gangster activities for too long or he might lose his touch eh...) for being in possession of a gun, silencers and ammunition!!!! Not exactly a punitive sentence likely to set the right example to others eh?......

Derek · 31-01-2009, 09:52

Could be worse, at least he was convicted.

Two Police Officers witnessing something with their own eyes isn't enough for a conviction anymore.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-21085458/

Osem · 31-01-2009, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Could be worse, at least he was convicted.

Two Police Officers witnessing something with their own eyes isn't enough for a conviction anymore.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-21085458/

Unemployed driving a Merc Kompressor - I wonder where his assets came from and whether HMRC have had their share..

31-01-2009, 11:15

Par for the course these days no longer surprised.