Formula 1 Talk 2007 Season - Page 10

21-10-2007, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Ron said at the end that they gained 10 seconds by making it a 3 stop strategy...

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Ron Dennis reckons that Hamilton switching to a 3 stop strategy gave him a ten second advantage so was the right decision. I think Hamilton blew it when he tried to overtake Alonso in the first lap, there was no need what so ever to do that and shows that he was the rookie.

Thanks, I didn't see the interviews

iadom · 21-10-2007, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I think Hamilton blew it when he tried to overtake Alonso in the first lap, there was no need what so ever to do that and shows that he was the rookie.

I disagree, he was still in 8th place until his car nearly gave out, he did very well to coax it back too life and finish where he did. The monumental cock up with the tyres in China and engine problems in this race is what cost him.
Jim.

Tricky · 21-10-2007, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

Ron Dennis reckons that Hamilton switching to a 3 stop strategy gave him a ten second advantage so was the right decision. I think Hamilton blew it when he tried to overtake Alonso in the first lap, there was no need what so ever to do that and shows that he was the rookie.

Would agree there - he tried too hard right from the beginning. His engine issue no doubt caused by his run off hence the change in stops as I bet they couldn't give him a complete tank to stop him bottom'ing out on the track

Always next year - no doubt he can drive and has had a great season

tcbass · 21-10-2007, 21:16

Fantastic result, Great job by Kimi and the team

Lewis showed his inexperience as a rookie in the last couple of races, alongside some unreliability from the so far rock solid car. He will be WDC plenty of times in the future.

ITV

coverage and the commentary was shocking. They are meant to keep a certain professional standard, and verbally willing cars to crash on the track is not it! I'm surprised they didn't start to cry at the end.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

My gripe with the whole spygate issue is that once again Ferrari have been invold and don't get punished.

As has been said before FIA = Ferrari International Assistant

I really like the logic there; Some-one posses your classified documents and uses them to their advantage and you get punished for it.

Do I sense a sore looser here

mr_bo · 21-10-2007, 22:38

Lewis could be world champ after all!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...289308,00.html

Cobbydaler · 21-10-2007, 22:51

Something to do with the temperature of the fuel samples?

Link

tcbass · 21-10-2007, 22:57

Here we go again, watching a minor irregularity getting blown out of all proportions.

I think the temp was slightly high.

If any point deductions happens (by no mean a certainty), then precedence points towards team only.

Edit: Seems like the temperature in the BMW's was 12 degrees lower that ambient and that in Williams was 14 degrees lower.
I think the rules say it can only be 10 degrees lower.

Cobbydaler · 21-10-2007, 23:00

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Originally Posted by tcbass

Here we go again, watching a minor irregularity getting blown out of all proportions.

I think the temp was slightly high.

If any point deductions happens (by no mean a certainty), then precedence points towards team only.

Confusion reigns...

This link says too cold!

TheDaddy · 21-10-2007, 23:09

Lewis is being profiled on BBC 1 now if anyone is interested

iadom · 21-10-2007, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Tricky

Would agree there - he tried too hard right from the beginning. His engine issue no doubt caused by his run off

His 'run off' was not into a gravel trap or anything similar,I don't it could have affected his car in any way.

Jim.

mr_bo · 21-10-2007, 23:13

Whilst I have always been patriotic in f1 with teams and drivers this does seem a little 'too' convenient to me, why is Nakajima who finished 10th in the other Williams not under investigation?

punky · 21-10-2007, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Confusion reigns...

This link says too cold!

You're warmer (pun intended

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Originally Posted by http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/technical_regulations/5267/fia.html

6.5.4 No fuel on board the car may be more than ten degrees centigrade below ambient temperature.
6.5.5 The use of any device on board the car to decrease the temperature of the fuel is forbidden.
6.6 Fuel sampling:
6.6.1 Competitors must ensure that a one litre sample of fuel may be taken from the car at any time during the Event.

I'm guessing the colder the fuel it is, the more dense it is which enhances performance. The principles applies to air intakes anyway.

danielf · 21-10-2007, 23:20

I was reminded of this today. If you can't watch it for two minutes without laughing you're insane allegedly

http://katunk.com/insanity/?a=1

tcbass · 21-10-2007, 23:25

the temp of the fuels were stored more than 10 degrease lower than the ambient temperature. Fuel has a higher density at lower temps.
Poss explanation could be that ambient temp was higher than expected.

Cobbydaler · 22-10-2007, 00:43

Some more detail

Significantly below ambient temperature...