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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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Originally Posted by Maggy
How to have a protest vote in a constituency that has been solidly Tory since its inception in 1974?
Any ideas? Because essentially that's what I've been doing since I began voting.
If you don't know it, your local Electoral Registration Office will be able to supply you with details of who came second last time. You could then vote for whoever this was if your main aim is to unseat the incumbent Tory.
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
More bizareness this morning.
The Tories are starting to pivot the attack on Starmer from 'what does he stand for' (which has some merit) to 'Sleepy Kier' following on from Trump's 'Sleep Joe' tag for Joe Biden.
Tory officials say Sunak has hit the campaign trail running: the “Sleepy Keir” jibe aimed at Labour’s leader is a direct reference to presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump goading of 81-year-old US president “Sleepy Joe” Biden ahead of November’s election.
They have no ideas. There are plenty of criticisms of Starmer but hardly anyone thinks it's he is too old and tired to do the job. It won't cut through at all. It works with Biden because he is old and he looks like it. The no 1 concern voters seem to have him with is his age and mental state.
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
I’ve put in my application for a postal vote this morning. It’s very easy to do if you know your NI number and you’re asking for a one-off postal vote form to be sent to your home address, and your home address is the address on the electoral roll. You don’t need to scan your passport or driving licence although you do need to scan your signature. Easy enough these days as we all have decent cameras on our phones.
(Edit) Should add, this is especially useful for Scottish voters as many of us will be on holiday in the first week of July. The process for applying for a postal vote for Holyrood is still a bit old fashioned and involves downloading and posting forms, but Scottish voters looking for a one-off postal vote in a Westminster election can use the gov.uk fully online service.
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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Originally Posted by Chris
I’ve put in my application for a postal vote this morning. It’s very easy to do if you know your NI number and you’re asking for a one-off postal vote form to be sent to your home address, and your home address is the address on the electoral roll. You don’t need to scan your passport or driving licence although you do need to scan your signature. Easy enough these days as we all have decent cameras on our phones.
(Edit) Should add, this is especially useful for Scottish voters as many of us will be on holiday in the first week of July. The process for applying for a postal vote for Holyrood is still a bit old fashioned and involves downloading and posting forms, but Scottish voters looking for a one-off postal vote in a Westminster election can use the gov.uk fully online service.
Thanks. Very useful!
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Originally Posted by Maggy
How to have a protest vote in a constituency that has been solidly Tory since its inception in 1974?
Any ideas? Because essentially that's what I've been doing since I began voting.
I feel for you.
In our case Michael Gove is gone, and the LibDem guy is ahead by a couple of points in the local polls. Better than Gove.....
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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Originally Posted by Damien
More bizareness this morning.
The Tories are starting to pivot the attack on Starmer from 'what does he stand for' (which has some merit) to 'Sleepy Kier' following on from Trump's 'Sleep Joe' tag for Joe Biden.
They have no ideas. There are plenty of criticisms of Starmer but hardly anyone thinks it's he is too old and tired to do the job. It won't cut through at all. It works with Biden because he is old and he looks like it. The no 1 concern voters seem to have him with is his age and mental state.
Boris was out at the weekend accusing Starmer of not prosecuting Jimmy Saville. Back in the day (it did the rounds when he was first appointed in 2020) the argument had a certain level of merit, assuming some dotted line could be drawn to show Starmer’s leadership of the CPS meant he ought to have intervened to ensure a prosecution went ahead. It’s by no means clear that argument was ever developed, and now the line just seems to be ‘Starmer didn’t prosecute Saville’ as if it was only ever in his personal in-tray.
All in all, the Tory campaign appears to be to shore up the core, boomer vote by demonising Keir Starmer and teenagers.
Parents may be fined if their adult children fail to do their National Service when they turn 18, a minister suggested today.
Anne-Marie Trevelyan declined to rule out financial penalties linked to Rishi Sunak's election pledge to make teens spend a year in the military or do unpaid weekend community work.
The proposal, which was unveiled yesterday has triggered a major row, the first of the nascent general election campaign.
Ms Trevelyan, the Foreign Office Minister, said today that many details of the scheme would be set out in a Royal Commission, and refused to rule out punishing parents if their adult offspring refused to take part.
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
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Boris was out at the weekend accusing Starmer of not prosecuting Jimmy Saville. Back in the day (it did the rounds when he was first appointed in 2020) the argument had a certain level of merit, assuming some dotted line could be drawn to show Starmer’s leadership of the CPS meant he ought to have intervened to ensure a prosecution went ahead. It’s by no means clear that argument was ever developed, and now the line just seems to be ‘Starmer didn’t prosecute Saville’ as if it was only ever in his personal in-tray.
All in all, the Tory campaign appears to be to shore up the core, boomer vote by demonising Keir Starmer and teenagers.
The CPS said: "There is no reference within the report to any involvement from the DPP in the decision-making in the case. The reviewing lawyer at the time set out their own reasons for the decisions they took, which are reproduced in the report."
Reality Check spoke to Nazir Afzal who was Chief Crown Prosecutor in the CPS for North West England from 2011-15.
We asked him whether - as DPP - Keir Starmer would have known about the decision not to prosecute Savile.
He said: "None of that would have been escalated beyond the south-east and Keir wasn't aware of it."
"At that time we were dealing [with] 900,000 prosecutions a year," he added.
Johnson apparently forgotten what he said previously…
On Thursday, during a visit to Blackpool, Johnson was challenged to withdraw the remark.
He said: “I want to be very clear about this because a lot of people have got very hot under the collar, and I understand why.
“Let’s be absolutely clear, I’m talking not about the leader of the opposition’s personal record when he was director of public prosecutions and I totally understand that he had nothing to do personally with those decisions.
“I was making a point about his responsibility for the organisation as a whole. I really do want to clarify that because it is important.”
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How to have a protest vote in a constituency that has been solidly Tory since its inception in 1974?
Any ideas? Because essentially that's what I've been doing since I began voting.
I feel your anger Maggy....... Torys ppl are quite underhanded but trying to put a dent in that isnt gonna be easy.... Everything is on thier side ('rigged' like) otherwise Im sure he would be out by now!
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Originally Posted by denphone
My parents have often asked the same question as they are in the same constituency as yourself and feel their vote is completely wasted.
Ya alot feel this way...... The Powers that be really have the control over who wins so yes people just coming in voting really means nothing....... If they want someone else,they will get them in regardless of who votes for whoever.......
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
These people have no shame*…
*obviously hoping no one will remember the impact of Truss’ shenanigans on people’s Pension Funds…
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The reporting on this in the Sun is absolute bolleaux scare-mongering…
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The Tories also plan to guarantee in legislation that OAPs’ personal allowance will always be higher than the level of the state pension.
Party insiders say that by 2027/28, at the current rate, the state pension will be £12,578. The tax-free allowance is now £12,570.
Without action, it would mean the elderly having to go through a red-tape headache of filling out a self-assessment form.
I have been claiming pensions since late 2018 (4 x Defined Benefit pensions since 2018, a Drawdown pension since mid 2021 (made up by consolidating 4 Defined Contribution pensions), and a State Pension since late 2022), and I haven’t had to fill out a self-assessment*. All HMRC does (automatically) is offset your State Pension against your Personal Allowance, and if you get more than the Personal Allowance, put a K tax code (you have untaxed income which is more than your tax-free amount. This has been added to your pay or pension so the extra tax can be collected) against one of your pensions, and put the rest on BR (basic rate taxation of 20% with no allowance on those).
*my State Pension alone takes me over the basic Income Tax starting threshold
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Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
Reading more into it, it's not as much as it seems on the surface. It would be nicer if they raised all thresholds but Tory party policy is to screw over those in work.
I wonder if they're in danger of overselling it though. It sounds too good be true when people here 'quadruple lock' and makes them seem like they are in a panic.
Also if this is what they're starting with then how far are they going to go? Probably some really crazy promises coming soon.
Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 1
Guess they are hoping their senile support have forgotten about all the manifesto pledges they've broken from the last election . Lies are acceptable these days. They should make manifestos contractually binding, as it is, they mean nothing.
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