24-08-2023, 21:20
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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A 'stollen' election sounds very tasty, I do live marzipan Silly Donny.
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24-08-2023, 22:10
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Someone needs to show Don how to search google, then he wouldn't make claims that are so easy to disprove.
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24-08-2023, 22:15
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Someone needs to show Don how to search google, then he wouldn't make claims that are so easy to disprove.
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I think he’s referring to the time, it’s been less than 24hrs.
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24-08-2023, 23:08
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I think he’s referring to the time, it’s been less than 24hrs.
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Trump could do worse than hire you for his defence, Pierre.
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24-08-2023, 23:43
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Trump could do worse than hire you for his defence, Pierre.
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He couldn’t afford me.
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25-08-2023, 00:49
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Trump could do worse than hire you for his defence, Pierre.
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He couldn’t afford me.
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He wouldn’t pay you - he has form…
Anyhoo…
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25-08-2023, 09:05
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
They were saying on CNN last night Don used the services of a bondsman which seems strange. If he shows up in court as expected etc he'll get his money back, but a bondsman charges a handsome fee AND if he skips town he'll be chased for the whole $200k. Would make a good episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter.
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25-08-2023, 09:19
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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They were saying on CNN last night Don used the services of a bondsman which seems strange. If he shows up in court as expected etc he'll get his money back, but a bondsman charges a handsome fee AND if he skips town he'll be chased for the whole $200k. Would make a good episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter.
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Well, he turned up and the historic mug shot was taken.
https://news.sky.com/story/historic-...orgia-12946945
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25-08-2023, 09:41
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
And his stated (self-proclaimed) weight was 215 pounds, or in British money, fifteen stone five pounds…
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25-08-2023, 09:44
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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And his stated (self-proclaimed) weight was 215 pounds, or in British money, fifteen stone five pounds…
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Well, whatever the truth of that, I'm sure it will go down if he's ever jailed. As a meme said yesterday, they couldn't find him 11,000 extra votes in Georgia but they can find him 12.
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28-08-2023, 16:54
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-live-updates
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Donald Trump’s criminal trial for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results will take place in 4 March 2024, the federal judge presiding over the case in Washington ruled on Monday, marking a sharp repudiation of the former president who had sought to delay the case for years.
The schedule set by US district court judge Tanya Chutkan means Trump’s first trial defending himself against prosecutors and the special counsel Jack Smith will be the election subversion case – and it will come during the height of the 2024 Republican primary season.
Trump pleaded not guilty earlier this month to charges filed in federal district court in Washington that he conspired to defraud the United States, conspired to obstruct an official proceeding, obstructed an official proceeding and engaged in a conspiracy against rights.
The former president had asked ahead of the hearing for the trial to take place in April 2026, citing the supposed “median time” of 29.2 months* that it took to convict defendants in cases that involved the charge of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.
But prosecutors had argued in response that using the median time as a benchmark was misleading because it included the time it takes for jury selection, trial, verdict and several months of sentencing deliberation, rather than just the duration of pre-trial proceedings.
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* Judge Tanya Chutkan signals she disagrees with arguments made by Donald Trump’s attorneys that, based on the “median time” of similar cases, his trial should begin in 2026.
At the hearing, Chutkan said those numbers were misleading because they included the time from commencement to sentencing, not to trial.
The judge also noted that she is overseeing one of the cases cited by Trump’s lawyers in their proposed timeframe, and the delays in that matter were because of Covid-19 and a superseding indictment – none of which applied to the former president.
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30-08-2023, 22:42
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
https://news.sky.com/story/senate-re...weeks-12951001
Mitch McConnell has had another moment where he freezes up and seems to stare into the distance. The first time might be a one-off but this might indicate a problem.
Along with Biden you do wonder if there is a case for age limits now for senior office. It's not just mental acuity either but also the physical demands of the job. A role like the President requires being able to work for long days, concentrate for long amounts of time, have the energy to suddenly take up a crisis and so on.
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30-08-2023, 22:47
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
America has a gerontocracy problem. Even the sainted Ruth Bader Ginsburg could be said to have caused the Supreme Court to end up with a baked in, generation-long conservative majority because she desperately clung on to her seat there when she could have resigned while there was still a Democrat in the White House. All she achieved by hanging on until death was to give the job of replacing her to the worst man ever to occupy the White House, something which was a known risk a good while before the 2016 election.
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31-08-2023, 16:26
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
More evidence that shows that perhaps Biden and Trump are not so different in terms of their ageing.
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Just how much is Biden’s advanced age affecting his ability to do his job? That’s a valid question.
What’s infuriating, though, is how that question is used as a cudgel by the right, despite the fact that their preferred guy – Donald Trump, who continues to lead in Republican primary polls – is also an elderly man, just three years Biden’s junior, and demonstrates even more worrying signs of both cognitive and physical decline, as well as narcissism, grandiosity and dishonesty.
Still, nearly 90% of Republicans say Biden is too old to be president, but only 29% say the same about Trump, who is roughly the same age and will also leave office in his 80s if he wins in 2024.
Nor is it the case that Trump is demonstrably fitter than Biden. By many accounts, Trump’s physical and cognitive health is poor. He’s both elderly and obese, which puts him at greater risk of a host of mental and physical problems, including dementia, cancer and cardiovascular failure. He has evinced significant cognitive decline, saying he can’t remember notable conversations and events, and that he doesn’t know people he has clearly met.
During Trump’s presidency, some of those around him worried that he had lost his mind. Over the years he has grown less and less coherent, more paranoid, more conspiratorial. His speech is erratic, his thoughts disorganized, and he makes simple factual errors – for example, seeming to forget where his father was born. As Trump’s years in the Oval Office ticked by, the question of whether there was something neurologically wrong with him became all the more urgent.
The man says he can’t even remember saying he has one of the world’s best memories.
The default assumption now seems to be that Trump is simply lying, and indeed that might be the case (if it is, it should also be disqualifying). But either he’s lying or he’s not firing on all cylinders – or, perhaps, both.
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31-08-2023, 20:44
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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A very fair objective piece………………
For the sake of balance.
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Just how much is Biden’s advanced age affecting his ability to do his job? That’s a valid question.
Donald Trump, who continues to lead in Republican primary polls – is also an elderly man, just three years Biden’s junior,
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he is, which is what make the comparison so stark
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and demonstrates even more worrying signs of both cognitive and physical decline,
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No he doesn’t and the author fails to state what they are.
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as well as narcissism, grandiosity and dishonesty.
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I don’t disagree but nothing to do with his health and tells you all you need to know about the author’s position. So not a balanced piece. I would usually just stop there.
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Still, nearly 90% of Republicans say Biden is too old to be president, but only 29% say the same about Trump, who is roughly the same age and will also leave office in his 80s if he wins in 2024.
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It’s not his age, it is the consistently well documented cognitive issues, that try as they might they cannot hide.
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Nor is it the case that Trump is demonstrably fitter than Biden.
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Well, let’s see Biden play 18 holes.
The was a video just the other day where Trump flicked the ball up with his putter and caught it.
I’m not saying that means he’s anything special but, as a golfer, I know that takes reflexes, coordination and a little skill.
unsubstantiated I.e. from the authors imagination
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accounts, Trump’s physical and cognitive health is poor.
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Trump has just done a long form interview with Carlson, he sells out arenas.
They won’t let you talk to Biden.
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He’s both elderly and obese, which puts him at greater risk of a host of mental and physical problems, including dementia, cancer and cardiovascular failure. He has evinced significant cognitive decline, saying he can’t remember notable conversations and events, and that he doesn’t know people he has clearly met.
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He is at risk. But that’s all.
And if not remembering people you’ve met, or what you said, is a sign of dementia, well. I’m 53 and that happens to me all the time.
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During Trump’s presidency, some of those around him worried that he had lost his mind. Over the years he has grown less and less coherent, more paranoid, more conspiratorial. His speech is erratic, his thoughts disorganized, and he makes simple factual errors – for example, seeming to forget where his father was born. As Trump’s years in the Oval Office ticked by, the question of whether there was something neurologically wrong with him became all the more urgent.
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The man says he can’t even remember saying he has one of the world’s best memories.
The default assumption now seems to be that Trump is simply lying, and indeed that might be the case (if it is, it should also be disqualifying). But either he’s lying or he’s not firing on all cylinders – or, perhaps, both.
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The whole thing is a third rate opinion piece.
Must do better.
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