Black Lives Matter

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

It's the ones that are not "woke" that are being fired or forced to resign, and therefore ending up broke.

Who's been fired?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Who's been fired?

Any examples of where not being "woke" or not supporting BLM and they are still in the job?

Originally Posted by downquark1

This is not a attempt to put frivolous things forward. This is a scapegoat response from people who don't know how to wash the sin away. They look at the systems and either cannot see a way to reduce racism or are prohibited someway.

Truth is the definition of systemic racism is so flexible that it cannot be solved meaningfully.

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So is it insurmountable to actually sort out discrimination? Is it something we have to live with because we can't deal with it?Is it easier to bring up stuff about statues,certain ads,certain songs/nursery rhymes rather than attempt to actually deal with the issue of actually making sure that equality is for everyone. Do we have to avoid finger wagging to actually move forwards?

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Maggy

---------- Post added at 19:16 ---------- Previous post was at 19:10 ----------

So is it insurmountable to actually sort out discrimination? Is it something we have to live with because we can't deal with it?Is it easier to bring up stuff about statues,certain ads,certain songs/nursery rhymes rather than attempt to actually deal with the issue of actually making sure that equality is for everyone. Do we have to avoid finger wagging to actually move forwards?

Well at this point a normal activist organisation would present some proposals which rightly or wrongly would be implemented. But they don't. Instead we turn on each other and tear down the culture, during an international crisis. Which is the point.

Originally Posted by Hugh

It also allows some people to call people they disagree with "woke", which some people think is an insult.

Better "woke" than "broke"...

Originally Posted by nomadking

It's the ones that are not "woke" that are being fired or forced to resign, and therefore ending up broke.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Who's been fired?

Originally Posted by nomadking

Any examples of where not being "woke" or not supporting BLM and they are still in the job?

Rob Liddle, Alexandra Phillips, Sam Ashworth-Hayes, Tom Slater, Toby Young, Brendan O’Neill, Guido Fawkes, et al, and others working for the Daily Mail, Telegraph, Spiked, Spectator, Times, etc.

[downquark1]

Toby Young was sacked from several positions. How many of those people are not self employed or employed by explicitly anti woke companies.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Rob Liddle, Alexandra Phillips, Sam Ashworth-Hayes, Tom Slater, Toby Young, Brendan O’Neill, Guido Fawkes, et al, and others working for the Daily Mail, Telegraph, Spiked, Spectator, Times, etc.

All depends on how much their employers support their right to say things. They and their employers constantly face a barrage of abuse because of it.

Try saying "All Lives Matter", and see where it gets you.

Just look at all the flak recently aimed at JK Rowling. If she wasn't already successful, how do you think it would go? Would and will the BBC still be interested in anything she creates?

Originally Posted by Hugh

... Guido Fawkes

Didnt he get executed about 400 years ago.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Any examples of where not being "woke" or not supporting BLM and they are still in the job?

It was you who made a contentious statement that not being woke got you fired... without any apparent evidence. I would suggest a few people on this forum aren't woke and haven't been fired for it.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It was you who made a contentious statement that not being woke got you fired... without any apparent evidence. I would suggest a few people on this forum aren't woke and haven't been fired for it.

If you have an opinion that the woke folk don't like you get hounded out by the wokerazzi,that's why people have to quickly issue a statement saying they support a load of stuff that they don't really give a damn about.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

that's why people have to quickly issue a statement saying they support a load of stuff that they don't really give a damn about.

Ain’t that the truth.

The level of corporate virtue signalling has been breathtaking

Originally Posted by Paul

Didnt he get executed about 400 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Fawkes_(website)

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Maggy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Fawkes_(website)

Nice try Maggy.

Guy Fawkes (/fɔːks/; 13 April 1570 – 31 January 1606),[a] also known as Guido Fawkes while fighting for the Spanish, was a member of a group of provincial English Catholics who was involved in the failed Gunpowder Plot of 1605. He was born and educated in York; his father died when Fawkes was eight years old, after which his mother married a recusant Catholic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

OK clever clogs try this..https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/lobby...fawkes-tweets/

Originally Posted by pip08456

Nice try Maggy.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

How? The original reference (post 590) was obviously referring to the Guido Fawkes website (order-order.com) and I think Paul’s reply was fairly clearly marked as a joke by the use of a ...