Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
24-05-2020, 21:10
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Originally Posted by Pierre
It all started with this post, when you knew exactly what Mick was on about but wanted to start an unnecessary argument, as you did last night with me.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=254
You are a pedant of the highest degree and this will be my last response to you on the matter.
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I know where it started as I answered it.
There was no argument? The quote inside Micks post had a question mark asking if it was illegal. So I answered it correctly saying it depends were he looked for the licence plate.
I'm not sure how that is an argument nor how it makes me a pedant. Any more remarks like that which are personal then I'll just report you.
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24-05-2020, 21:15
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Originally Posted by Chris
Dominic Cummings is an out and out hypocrite but even if he’s broken the law I’d be surprised if there’s another law that says he must lose his job.
He is a political appointment. His value is political. So long as Boris calculates his political value remains greater than the political cost of keeping him on, he stays.
Meantime, this unending game of Where’s Dominic is somehow even more tedious than lockdown. Or maybe for some folks it does relieve the boredom. Who knows, who cares.
That’s my 2p anyway.
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This is where it could get interesting - ironically one of the best minds for how it plays out in the public is likely Dom himself.
Do the public get annoyed about it? Unsurprisingly, on this forum the usual Brexit divide and Conservative/other divide has largely held up regardless of the evidence presented by both sides, however we’re all fairly entrenched characters. There have been critical articles in the Times, Telegraph and Spectator on top of the usual suspects. A number of Conservative MPs said he should go and rumours of some of the Cabinet miffed at tweeting support one day to look stupid the next.
Maybe some quiet time in the private sector would do him good, or does anyone know of any other elections on the go this year that could benefit from his... insight?
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24-05-2020, 21:15
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
I like the sound of Barnard Castle, sounds nice with the bluebells.... Think I might take a trip up there. Lockdown's off apparently.
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24-05-2020, 21:21
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Originally Posted by Chris
He is a political appointment. His value is political. So long as Boris calculates his political value remains greater than the political cost of keeping him on, he stays.
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This is what I don't understand. How much must he be worth to Boris Johnson for this is be worth it for him?
A lot of the time we overestimate how much people care but this seems like a classic scandal that people have paid attention too. Johnson is risking taking a hit over this.
Last edited by Damien; 24-05-2020 at 21:25.
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24-05-2020, 21:28
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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This is what I don't understand. How much must he be worth to Boris Johnson for this is be worth it for him?
A lot of the time we overestimate how much people care but this seems like a classic scandal that people have paid attention too. Johnson is risking taking a hit over this.
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Dom's got the dirt on Boris. 'Sack me if you dare !'
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24-05-2020, 21:43
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Dom's got the dirt on Boris. 'Sack me if you dare !'
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More likely his wife has - she worked with Boris for quite a long time when he was at the Spectator.
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24-05-2020, 21:46
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Dom's got the dirt on Boris. 'Sack me if you dare !'
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This kerfuffle was made for Mr. K!
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24-05-2020, 21:56
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Originally Posted by Damien
This is what I don't understand. How much must he be worth to Boris Johnson for this is be worth it for him?
A lot of the time we overestimate how much people care but this seems like a classic scandal that people have paid attention too. Johnson is risking taking a hit over this.
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Normally, if Boris was evaluating this kind of decision, he would go to his data analyst who would give him the relevant intelligence from a balanced dataset of 2,000 voters.
However, in this situation, the data analyst - Dominic Cummings - is the subject in question. So Boris Johnson is removed from his more voter-focused decision-making mechanism and has to go by his instincts, which is to support the man who got him into power.
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So are you not welcoming the police investigation and possibility that the witness gets prosecuted for wasting police time in the unlikely event you are right?
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I certainly am.
Pierre, what about you?
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24-05-2020, 22:04
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
even the daily fail turning against him
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24-05-2020, 22:16
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
In depth survey on what London thinks of Dominic Cummings' actions.
https://twitter.com/oliverleith/stat...29762770833411
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even the daily fail turning against him
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Thanks for sharing this.
Whilst some loyalists have been slow in understanding that Dominic Cummings broke any rules, the Daily Mail is clear in declaring that Dominic Cummings "flouted PM's own strict lockdown rules".
This front page to me casts doubts on Cummings' position.
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24-05-2020, 22:19
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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In depth survey on what London thinks of Dominic Cummings' actions.
https://twitter.com/oliverleith/stat...29762770833411
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Thanks for sharing this.
Whilst some loyalists have been slow in understanding that Dominic Cummings broke any rules, the Daily Mail is clear in declaring that Dominic Cummings "flouted PM's own strict lockdown rules".
This front page to me casts doubts on Cummings' position.
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exactly thats what it about him breaking the rules and government effectively having one rule for the people and one different rule for Cummings
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24-05-2020, 22:20
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Dom's got the dirt on Boris. 'Sack me if you dare !'
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I'm not sure anything would surprise us, though any clarification on offspring would be of assistance to the likes of Who's Who.
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24-05-2020, 22:24
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
The Daily Mail putting paid to this being a lefty, losery, remoanery conspiracy.
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24-05-2020, 22:25
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
People underestimate The Daily Mail. They write for their audience and not for the owner. If their read on their audience is that they're angry at the Tories then the Mail will reflect that anger, they're not on some sinister agenda to brainwash them into the political views of Rothermere.
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24-05-2020, 22:29
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Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
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Originally Posted by jfman
The Daily Mail putting paid to this being a lefty, losery, remoanery conspiracy.
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But it is, partly.
Why the media obsession in Cummings?
Why has someone paid some expense and parked a pickup with large tv screen and parked it outside his house earlier this afternoon?
That is not normal behaviour, it's psychotic, usually attributed to people suffering some kind of derangement syndrome.
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