25-02-2020, 23:10
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Re: Doctor Who
It hasn't been doing too well on the ratings front but I doubt it isn't going to stop them. The PC & inclusivity machine seem to be given carte blanche these days just so they can make a point.
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25-02-2020, 23:28
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With the way British tv is now, ratings aren't really a good way of seeing how well a show is liked or watched. When you look at other statistics it's still doing great. On Sunday it had a 19% share of tv viewers and was the 8th was watch show on tv that day.
So while viewers have fallen it's still very popular. It's still getting ratings higher than some of Capsldi's tenure.
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26-02-2020, 01:27
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Re: Doctor Who
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It's still getting ratings higher than some of Capsldi's tenure.
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Not really, its average is much the same as Capaldis final season, and generally on a downward trend.
Its lost 50% of viewers since the first episode of Season 11, and around 25% just this season [since episode 1].
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01-03-2020, 20:02
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Who saw that ending coming, the space police?
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01-03-2020, 22:15
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Re: Doctor Who
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Feel free not to watch it..
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02-03-2020, 06:04
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I dont, i stay well away from it. I think it is an abomination to general tv viewing and an insult to scifi.
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02-03-2020, 19:30
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Re: Doctor Who
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I dont, i stay well away from it. I think it is an abomination to general tv viewing and an insult to scifi.
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I don't think it's really ever appealed to sci fi purists. It's always had a much wider audience hence it's success. Not a fan of this latest incarnation, but the beauty of the programme is that it can 'regenerate' itself quite quickly.
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02-03-2020, 20:08
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It’s science fantasy, aimed at families and accessible to primary school age children. It has never been what the black tee shirt brigade frequently say they remember it to be. If you want technical manuals, stick to Star Trek.
I just got a chance to see the finale and loved it.
The show has been at best ambivalent towards Gallifrey since the 2005 revival. The way they have dealt with it is rather good, in every way as vast as what the team behind the New Adventures novels tried to do in the 1990s but in my view rather more faithful to the spirit of the show.
The NAs tried to make the Doctor more mysterious by hugely expanding the lore of Gallifrey in a way you couldn’t comprehend without thoroughly understanding a whole pile of backstory in addition to fresh snippets often buried within dense, not always well-written original novels, produced while the show was off the air with no obvious means of revival. The TV series has done it by offering an accessible summary of the lore of Gallifrey (without any of the loombollox), then sterilising it and leaving us with a deeper mystery. If the Doctor is the alien child whose genetic code gave the Time Lords the ability to regenerate, but was found abandoned at the mouth of a gateway to some unknown corner of the universe, who is the Doctor really? What is her home planet? What race is she?
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03-03-2020, 11:33
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...... Plus if she is the child whose existence enabled the Time Lord's ability to regenerate she will presumably be not affected by the restrictions built into the Time Lords DNA regarding the number of times they can regenerated. Or, at least, that was one of the issues that I thought had explained the Master's bitter hatred of the Dr.
Of course I could well be wrong.
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03-03-2020, 13:50
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It’s intriguing isn’t it. Would the Doctor actually have died at the end of The Time of the Doctor? Did the massive pulse of regeneration energy sent from Gallifrey really renew the Doctor’s life cycle, or simply kick-start a regeneration that would have happened anyway, had the doctor not been resisting his ‘death’?
I could be reading in a bit here, as I don’t know how intimately acquainted Chris Chibnall is with the deep continuity of the show, but his solution, especially with the snippets of buried memory in ‘Ireland’ also explains a couple of bits and pieces from the early days of the show (for example, Pat Troughton’s second doctor saying that barring accidents a Time Lord could live forever, and the appearance of faces earlier than William Hartnell in the Doctor’s mental regression battle In The Brain of Morbius - both of these can now plausibly be explained in-universe as similar buried memories briefly surfacing, rather than a production team making it up as they went along and only respecting continuity when they could remember what it was).
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03-03-2020, 16:16
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Yeah does kind of make your think Doctor Who? They lost a lot of the mystery in recent years.
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03-03-2020, 16:26
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The last script editor of the show’s classic era, Andrew Cartmel, had come to the same conclusion and had developed a multi-season story arc that was designed to reintroduce the mystery. It bore certain similarities with what they have now done - the Doctor was to be revealed as one of the founders of Time Lord society, and not on his first cycle of regenerations. They never got to implement it beyond a few lines of dialogue thrown in to McCoy’s second and third seasons, and in the end it was only finally revealed in the New Adventures novels, mostly in the final NA, a badly plotted, navel-gazing mess called Lungbarrow. I much prefer Chris Chibnall’s solution.
It’s kind of amusing though, on the dedicated Who forums there are people who still insist the Cartmel Master Plan is part of the show’s official canon because it was conceived and began during the classic tv run and concluded by writers who had been involved with the classic series. Until now it was just about possible to accommodate it into everything we’ve seen on tv in the classic and revival series, but last weekend explicitly trod on the same ground and there’s no longer room for both. There has been a bit of dummy-spitting.
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26-03-2020, 18:16
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Re: Doctor Who
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Get with it Richard, it's 'The Doctor', not 'Dr Who'.
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