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24-09-2019, 13:33
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Sorry but I refer you back to the courts ruling, no mention of corrupt or lies. Words matter in rulings.
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Presumably if it's not corruption then it's incompetence. Neither is an attractive attribute.
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24-09-2019, 13:33
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Does your first statement not suggest a level of ineptitude?
As i see it we have (in my view) either a corrupt politician who deliberately tried to stop parliament from performing due process. Or, we have an inept politician incapable of performing his duties to the standard required.
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People can form their own opinions about Boris Johnson as each of us can have our own subjective opinion on Boris Johnson as the key word used by the Supreme Court this morning was unlawful.
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24-09-2019, 13:34
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Does your first statement not suggest a level of ineptitude?
As i see it we have (in my view) either a corrupt politician who deliberately tried to stop parliament from performing due process. Or, we have an inept politician incapable of performing his duties to the standard required.
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...and what about Parliament attempting to frustrate the will of the electorate? There will be a high price to be paid for that, make no mistake.
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24-09-2019, 13:37
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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...and what about Parliament attempting to frustrate the will of the electorate? There will be a high price to be paid for that, make no mistake.
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The electorate didn't vote for no deal.
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24-09-2019, 13:38
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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People can form their own opinions about Boris Johnson as each of us can have our own subjective opinion on Boris Johnson as the key word used by the Supreme Court this morning was unlawful.
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You cannot apply that word to every single connotation you happen to think up! It was the impact of the prorogation that was unlawful, that was the extent of it.
They did not say 'illegal' either, which would imply criminality.
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24-09-2019, 13:38
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Presumably if it's not corruption then it's incompetence. Neither is an attractive attribute.
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Does it say this in those in the rulings?
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24-09-2019, 13:43
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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...and what about Parliament attempting to frustrate the will of the electorate? There will be a high price to be paid for that, make no mistake.
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Tell you what go and raise a court case against Parliament for acting unlawfully, If you win, come back and lets talk. Until then, your point is moot.
Parliament hasn't acted unlawfully. Boris has.
What high price will be paid? What empty threat is this?
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24-09-2019, 13:43
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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The electorate didn't vote for no deal.
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The electorate voted to leave.
Parliament voted against leave with a deal
Parliament voted against a no deal.
Parliament voted against the Norway option....
I'm sure you don't want the whole list, but it is blindingly obvious to us all that Parliament has been blocking the electorate's vote to LEAVE the EU.
None of the nonsense remain arguments can convincingly avoid that reality. And this is not lost on the public, which we will all see when the Opposition parties finally become embarrassed enough to call for an election.
Boris is now a champion of the people. Do the remainers yet see that this is what they have done? They have handed Boris a whopping great majority!
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24-09-2019, 13:44
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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You cannot apply that word to every single connotation you happen to think up! It was the impact of the prorogation that was unlawful, that was the extent of it.
They did not say 'illegal' either, which would imply criminality.
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Again, no, it wasn't
HIS advice to the queen was unlawful. go back, read the judgment.
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24-09-2019, 13:46
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Tell you what go and raise a court case against Parliament for acting unlawfully, If you win, come back and lets talk. Until then, your point is moot.
Parliament hasn't acted unlawfully. Boris has.
What high price will be paid? What empty threat is this?
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Where did I say that Parliament acted unlawfully? Stop twisting things. I am saying that they have connived to frustrate the will of the electorate. That doesn't break any laws, unfortunately.
However, the Court of Public Opinion will have the final say.
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24-09-2019, 13:48
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Where did I say that Parliament acted unlawfully? Stop twisting things. I am saying that they have connived to frustrate the will of the electorate. That doesn't break any laws, unfortunately.
However, the Court of Public Opinion will have the final say.
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So your post has no relevance to the discussion at hand. Good to know.
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24-09-2019, 13:48
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The electorate voted to leave.
Parliament voted against leave with a deal
Parliament voted against a no deal.
Parliament voted against the Norway option....
I'm sure you don't want the whole list, but it is blindingly obvious to us all that Parliament has been blocking the electorate's vote to LEAVE the EU.
None of the nonsense remain arguments can convincingly avoid that reality. And this is not lost on the public, which we will all see when the Opposition parties finally become embarrassed enough to call for an election.
Boris is now a champion of the people. Do the remainers yet see that this is what they have done? They have handed Boris a whopping great majority!
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If people vote for him on the basis of no deal, and that delivers a majority, then so be it. That could legitimately be called what people voted for.
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24-09-2019, 13:52
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Again, no, it wasn't
HIS advice to the queen was unlawful. go back, read the judgment.
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It was, but because of the impact of the prorogation.
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So your post has no relevance to the discussion at hand. Good to know.
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Get real, man!
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24-09-2019, 13:57
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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It was, but because of the impact of the prorogation.
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Get real, man!
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I'm very real, you were attempting to use parliaments behaviour in a bid to offset/limit or perhaps even justify Boris's.
As i said, parliament has not done anything unlawful, but feel free to try and bring a case
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24-09-2019, 14:01
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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I'm very real, you were attempting to use parliaments behaviour in a bid to offset/limit or perhaps even justify Boris's.
As i said, parliament has not done anything unlawful, but feel free to try and bring a case
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I have not said Parliament acted unlawfully. I was drawing attention to the unacceptable and treacherous way that the House was trying to defeat the will of the electorate.
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