PM Boris forms a government
11-09-2019, 17:06
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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Correct - You have 2 out of 3 cases, saying Boris Proroguing Parliament was lawful and a Scottish Court saying not -, you got a former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption saying, it's not unlawful, who's right...?
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The Scottish court found him guilty of being an English Tory, what a surprise
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11-09-2019, 17:08
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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The Scottish court found him guilty of being an English Tory, what a surprise
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And you think that is being political?
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11-09-2019, 17:30
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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supreme court sitting on Tuesday to decide
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They'll side with the Government and lower courts (British) - this is not a territory for the courts to enter for Judicial Review, including The Supreme Court. There is no statute, no other law that says Parliament has to sit in constant session. The Government of the day can Prorogue Parliament for any reason, the purpose of prorogation is not limited to preparing for the Queen's speech. Doesn't matter if it's a good or bad reason, doesn't matter if it's for political advantage, it's not illegal.*
* As per High Court ruling last week in Gina Miller's case.
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11-09-2019, 17:39
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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Originally Posted by Mick
Correct - You have 2 out of 3 cases, saying Boris Proroguing Parliament was lawful and a Scottish Court saying not -, you got a former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption saying, it's not unlawful, who's right...?
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The judiciary isn't a democratic organisation driven by a Meat Loaf song though. 2 out of 3 ain't good in this case.
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11-09-2019, 17:51
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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Correct - You have 2 out of 3 cases, saying Boris Proroguing Parliament was lawful and a Scottish Court saying not -, you got a former Supreme Court Justice, Lord Sumption saying, it's not unlawful, who's right...?
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Lord Sumption also thinks we should have another Referendum, and that BJ is putting forward fanatical ideas and is surrounded by fanatics.
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/p...e-of-a-fanatic
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“my view is that we need another referendum. I am opposed to referendums as such, because I think the political process is a valuable source of compromise, and I was opposed to this referendum because there were too many answers to the question posed other than ‘yes’ or ‘no.’”
But “it seems to me that having had one of them, and ended up in the current insufferable situation, it may well be that the only way out which both sides should ultimately accept as legitimate is to have another. How else can we answer the vital questions left unanswered in 2016… The British people have never been asked what our relationship with the EU should be if we leave. It would have been difficult to ask them in 2016, because at that time we had no idea what terms would be available and what problems would arise. We have a very clear idea of that now.
“The suggestion that a second vote would be undemocratic is extraordinary and disingenuous. The referendum of 2016 has not answered the question: how much are we prepared to pay to be out of the EU?”
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Boris Johnson “is putting forward ideas which are essentially those of a fanatic,” Sumption said, requiring surprisingly little encouragement. “Whether he is a fanatic himself is a matter on which there has been much speculation. I have no more knowledge of that than the rest of the public. But he has certainly got plenty of fanatics around him. We are getting statements from Downing Street like ‘We intend to sabotage this extension,’ and such like. If Al Capone had been in the habit of issuing press statements, they would have looked something like that.”
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11-09-2019, 18:00
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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Well no one is right all of the time even old judges drop the ball sometimes.
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11-09-2019, 18:40
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
I knew what I voted for in 2016 I'm sick to the back teeth of these nobodys making comment like people had just come out of a cave to vote.
The bank of england has even changed its tune from the end of mankind as we know it to well actually I think we can sleep at night knowing we are going to be ok.
Another referendum wouldn't decide the outcome because we don't 100% know the outcome either way only that being more informed in 2019 shows actually the results are showing we won't actually be that bad.
Even the EU is ready for any outcome so the only people holding the UK back now are the MP's.
Corbyn himself doesn't even have a plan
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11-09-2019, 19:11
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
In fairness most came out their housing estate flats to vote against out their Polish neighbours.
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11-09-2019, 19:29
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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I never asked for Sumptions political aspirations or ideals, yeah, he is a Remainer, but your post holds no bearing on my legal basis of opinion and point at all.
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11-09-2019, 19:44
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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I knew what I voted for in 2016 I'm sick to the back teeth of these nobodys making comment like people had just come out of a cave to vote.
The bank of england has even changed its tune from the end of mankind as we know it to well actually I think we can sleep at night knowing we are going to be ok.
Another referendum wouldn't decide the outcome because we don't 100% know the outcome either way only that being more informed in 2019 shows actually the results are showing we won't actually be that bad.
Even the EU is ready for any outcome so the only people holding the UK back now are the MP's.
Corbyn himself doesn't even have a plan
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that the problem no one has a plan
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11-09-2019, 19:53
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
We should have found out about the deal before having a referendum then we could have decided the pros and cons... I suppose the outcome would still have been the same.
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11-09-2019, 19:55
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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that the problem no one has a plan
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There has been no plan for three years plus and still the omnishambles continues unabated...
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11-09-2019, 19:57
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
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There has been no plan for three years plus and still the omnishambles continues unabated...
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exactly Den
yellowhammer document released
https://assets.publishing.service.go...ptions_CDL.pdf
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11-09-2019, 19:58
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
Yellowhammer documents published. It's not good: https://twitter.com/alexwickham/stat...57735295623168
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— 2.5 day queues for HGVs at Kent
— significant electricity price increases for consumers
— winter weather and flu could exacerbate impacts and stretch resources
— public and biz readiness for no-deal will remain at a low level
— small and medium businesses less well prepared
— possible severe extended delays for medicines if situation unmitigated
— certain types of fresh food supply will decrease
— law enforcement data sharing disrupted
— financial services disrupted
— low income groups disproportionately affected
— protests across UK
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This is a Government document that they didn't want to publish.
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11-09-2019, 20:05
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Re: PM Boris forms a government
Obviously made up propaganda, cunningly withheld, to be released with an air of authenticity later on.
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