Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
02-05-2019, 14:55
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
In my opinion its still a pipe dream with the exception of Disney I don't see many brave enough to go it alone outside the USA.
I still see the others licensing content to third parties.
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If Hollywood never sold its stuff outside America before, then I'd agree, but Hollywood's films and tv span the globe and that's before further media consolidation probably with more telecoms and tech companies.
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I do think also that as material becomes about 5 years old on any streamer, many programmes will be made available elsewhere, either exclusively or on a non-exclusive basis.[
If they do, I would imagine that they will give the content rights to the SVOD services rather than the pay-tv channels.
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Certainly Comcast and AT&T have publicly said they will still licence content, especially older content to third parties, but lets see how long that model can continue for in the streaming world. Not long, me thinks.
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02-05-2019, 15:13
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
Of the new entrants Comcast will also probably have the largest audience early on for its streaming service , they announced the service will be available ad supported for all it's 50 million + subscribers both here and in the US.
The ad supported service will also be available on other US pay TV platforms as well as a chargeable version for people without pay TV.
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02-05-2019, 17:38
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For broadband yes, but AT&T and Verizon have over 150m+ subscribers a piece for their mobile services and unlike Verizon, AT&T has the Warner content to stream to those mobile customers. So, in theory, AT&T should hit the ground running with their streamer too.
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02-05-2019, 19:08
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Broadband ?
I'm referring to the 50 million + TV subscribers who'll have access included for free from the ad supported Streaming service as far as I'm aware the others have only mentioned pay OTT services.
I'm sure Comcast mentioned making $5-6 per subscriber from advertising which seems pretty good and gives them a huge audience from day one with the potential for an even higher audience if the as supported app becomes available to competing pay TV services.
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09-05-2019, 14:04
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
We'll, here is a reason NOT to throw out the old.
At last a free day to enjoy my retirement. Poor weather so a chance to binge watch on Netflix the early series of Line of Duty. Then around 10.30am the internet goes down . . . and VM TV too. Estimated fix time according to My Virgin Media 6.30pm.
All is not lost for my relaxing day as I have many programmes recorded on my V6 waiting to be watched. Currently enjoying the excellent ITV series Victoria.
I know it is extremely rare the internet plays up . . . but it has sure happened today!
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My lad has just come back from work looking forward to watching Game of Thrones on Now TV upstairs . . . but still no internet.
He is now having to watch recorded Ghosts on my TV.
Come back internet!
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2pm. It's working again!
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19-05-2019, 19:28
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
More trouble ahead for the conventional TV channels. The lack of US content available to them as studios divert their attention to OTT services means that linear TV channels will have to invest in more content of their own or suffer a lack of 'must see' programming.
https://tbivision.com/2019/05/17/tbi...global-buyers/
Rampant consolidation across the US market and forthcoming launches of studio-backed SVODs such as Disney+ and the WarnerMedia streamer point to a potential “scarcity” of content as studios are expected to hold back key shows for their own services.
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19-05-2019, 21:10
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The best streaming service for content in my opinion is YouTube and it's free if you don't mind short ads.
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19-05-2019, 21:17
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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More trouble ahead for the conventional TV channels. The lack of US content available to them as studios divert their attention to OTT services means that linear TV channels will have to invest in more content of their own or suffer a lack of 'must see' programming.
https://tbivision.com/2019/05/17/tbi...global-buyers/
Rampant consolidation across the US market and forthcoming launches of studio-backed SVODs such as Disney+ and the WarnerMedia streamer point to a potential “scarcity” of content as studios are expected to hold back key shows for their own services.
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There’s no quality on linear TV anyway according to your analysis. So nothing to lose from this in practice.
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20-05-2019, 05:35
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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There’s no quality on linear TV anyway according to your analysis. So nothing to lose from this in practice.
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Things can often be like that in the hypothetical fantasy world of OB but real reality tends to come sooner rather then later l always find.
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20-05-2019, 08:34
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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There’s no quality on linear TV anyway according to your analysis. So nothing to lose from this in practice.
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Not true. What about Bodyguard, Victoria, Line of Duty and so on?
My complaint has not been that there are no quality programmes on scheduled TV, just that the number of such programmes are diminishing. This is particularly noticeable on the pay tv channels. Only BBC and ITV seem to be putting themselves out with their own quality dramas at present. Sky does the occasional one such as Strikeback, but there are very few, if any, compelling Sky productions on there these days.
A couple or so years ago, I was recording programmes from quite a range of channels - even minor ones such as 5USA. This no longer happens because I simply can't find stuff to watch any more..
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Things can often be like that in the hypothetical fantasy world of OB but real reality tends to come sooner rather then later l always find.
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I live in the real world, Den, where advances are made and things change over time. You seem to be stuck in a time warp!
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20-05-2019, 10:44
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If I'm honest I always manage to find things to watch on my Sky Q box in fact much easier than entering Netflix which usually results in frustration.
There are literally hundreds of movies/shows my box either automatically picks up or suggests to me across terrestrial and pay channels.
That's before I even browse the extensive Sky Box Sets section.
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20-05-2019, 11:48
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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Not true. What about Bodyguard, Victoria, Line of Duty and so on?
My complaint has not been that there are no quality programmes on scheduled TV, just that the number of such programmes are diminishing. This is particularly noticeable on the pay tv channels. Only BBC and ITV seem to be putting themselves out with their own quality dramas at present. Sky does the occasional one such as Strikeback, but there are very few, if any, compelling Sky productions on there these days.
A couple or so years ago, I was recording programmes from quite a range of channels - even minor ones such as 5USA. This no longer happens because I simply can't find stuff to watch any more..
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I live in the real world, Den, where advances are made and things change over time. You seem to be stuck in a time warp!
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What about Game of Thrones - sky exclusive with a very large following over a number of years
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20-05-2019, 11:58
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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What about Game of Thrones - sky exclusive with a very large following over a number of years
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GoT is an HBO production. Sky has no involvement in the production.
https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones
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20-05-2019, 12:03
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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To be fair he didn't really say they did but his point is valid it has the exclusive UK subscription rights to the show currently.
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20-05-2019, 12:20
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Re: Linear is old tech - on demand is the future
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If you read my post you will see I never said they had, only that they have exclusive broadcasting rights - which is true
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