08-05-2019, 18:06
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
Lol, the order of the headlines in the 6pm news sums this country up.
Main headline:- Royal Baby name (yawn).
Crisis in GP numbers demoted to second...
Which affects us more?
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08-05-2019, 18:40
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Lol, the order of the headlines in the 6pm news sums this country up.
Main headline:- Royal Baby name (yawn).
Crisis in GP numbers demoted to second...
Which affects us more?
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It's per 100,000 people, so how many people we let into the country is a huge factor.
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While there are more doctors, fewer of them are choosing to work full time, said the Royal College of GPs.
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How many are working as locums and will not be included in the figures. How else can they afford to work only part-time?
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08-05-2019, 18:46
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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It's per 100,000 people, so how many people we let into the country is a huge factor.
How many are working as locums and will not be included in the figures. How else can they afford to work only part-time?
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Odd thing is, the people that arrive may well be the Doctors and Nurses we need, but more importantly, the least likely to use the NHS.
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08-05-2019, 19:37
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Odd thing is, the people that arrive may well be the Doctors and Nurses we need, but more importantly, the least likely to use the NHS.
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Meaningless. unless the percentage of those that are GPs is more than the existing percentage. The number of GPs per 100,000, which is the measure being used, will go down.
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08-05-2019, 19:45
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Meaningless. unless the percentage of those that are GPs is more than the existing percentage. The number of GPs per 100,000, which is the measure being used, will go down.
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We're an agieng population, which means we will need more GPs/healthcare. People can't seem to understand this fact, or that we are in desperate need for healthcare professionals, wherever they are from. Other countries are in the same situation, but they are seem the more attractive option for potential recruits atm, wonder why?
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08-05-2019, 19:50
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Meaningless. unless the percentage of those that are GPs is more than the existing percentage. The number of GPs per 100,000, which is the measure being used, will go down.
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It is the volume of patients each GP has to see. This is down to there not being enough GPs and an ageing population. 2/5 of all NHS use is by people over 65.
Assuming more people is the problem does not actually address the shortage.
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08-05-2019, 20:00
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Originally Posted by Mr K
We're an agieng population, which means we will need more GPs/healthcare. People can't seem to understand this fact, or that we are in desperate need for healthcare professionals, wherever they are from. Other countries are in the same situation, but they are seem the more attractive option for potential recruits atm, wonder why?
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Still irrelevant to a number of GPs per 100,000 measure.
Other countries do have similar problems, but if they are such an attractive option, why are they still having problems?
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72,314 doctors from the EU applied to work elsewhere in the bloc between 1996 and 2016.
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24,945 of those came to the UK. That's more than Germany and Sweden combined.
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08-05-2019, 20:12
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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24,945 of those came to the UK. That's more than Germany and Sweden combined.
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Those figure are pre-Brexit vote aren't they?
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08-05-2019, 20:15
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Those figure are pre-Brexit vote aren't they?
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Still means the UK was a better option than all other EU countries. The accusation was made that other EU countries were more attractive.
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08-05-2019, 20:29
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Still means the UK was a better option than all other EU countries. The accusation was made that other EU countries were more attractive.
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The UK may have been a better option, but no more. We don't half know how to shoot ourselves in the foot sometimes.
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08-05-2019, 20:32
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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The UK may have been a better option, but no more. We don't half know how to shoot ourselves in the foot sometimes.
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Doctors from outside the EU already find the UK attractive.
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08-05-2019, 20:36
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Still means the UK was a better option than all other EU countries. The accusation was made that other EU countries were more attractive.
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It wasn't. The suggestion was that other EU countries are not were more attractive.
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08-05-2019, 20:38
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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Doctors from outside the EU already find the UK attractive.
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If we let them in. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8324831.html
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14-12-2019, 09:25
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
Here's an immediate test for Boris, time for some major investment NOW (as promised).
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The NHS was “on its knees” even before winter had begun, health service bosses have said as figures showed it missed key waiting-time targets for A&E care, operations and cancer treatment.
The performance of the NHS in England in November was yet again its worst ever, prompting concern that it cannot keep up with a relentless rise in the number of people needing care.
Doctors’ leaders called for Boris Johnson’s government to take urgent action to boost staffing, hospital bed numbers and GP services.
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/...y_to_clipboard
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14-12-2019, 10:11
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Re: Crisis in the NHS
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The UK may have been a better option, but no more. We don't half know how to shoot ourselves in the foot sometimes.
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What are you on about, Mr K? Nobody is suggesting that doctors should be prevented from coming into this country, are they?
I suppose that because you imply it continuously, it must be true.
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Yes, that is bad, but Boris's new point-based immigration system will resolve that. We are still working under May's rules at the moment.
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