Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
19-04-2017, 19:00
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
More evidence - as if we needed it - that the BBC stands for Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.
They have an uncanny ability to fill their studio audience almost exclusively with leave voters.
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Well, you brought a smile to my face Andrew. I suppose in your (new?) world, the FT is a Brexit supporting newspaper, CNN supports Trump and Fox News supports Hillary!
I know someone as esteemed as yourself would never touch the 'wacky-baccy' but it does make me wonder
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19-04-2017, 19:06
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Where on earth do you get that idea from? The Brussels Broadcasting Company has been relentlessly pro EU the whole way though especially on current affairs output.
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Brexit Broadcasting Corporation??
I've heard some nonsense in my time but that takes the biscuit.
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19-04-2017, 19:23
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
More evidence - as if we needed it - that the BBC stands for Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.
They have an uncanny ability to fill their studio audience almost exclusively with leave voters.
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What an absolute cop out and you know it.
I think Michelle Dewberry on that QT panel, makes a very valid point about remainers, going on about that we should not be going for a 'hard or extreme brexit'.
Like Michelle was saying, if you sell a house and buy and move in to another, you don't go back to sleep in your old house and bedroom, it is just absolutely ludicrous all these suggestions from remainers that yes, we are leaving, but not really because you want to keep our foot in the EU door. This is not what the majority voted for.
I have said this and I am going to say this again. There is no soft or hard brexit because leaving means exactly that, no silly connections or strings attached, no single market please or any other variance of it. Leave means leave and that is what needs to happen and it cannot happen any quicker, as far as I am concerned.
And Diane Abbott is a disgrace for an MP, every time she opens her racist fat gob, more and more long standing Labour voters turn away from the party. Labour are in for a thrashing at this snap election and it is going to serve them bloody right.
And Lib Dem, Tim Farron, that imbecile would have us rejoin the EU in a heart beat, however, his party is getting some backlash just now for his own personal views about gay people being 'sinners'.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7690771.html
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Tim Farron has been attacked for suggesting that gay people are sinners.
The Liberal Democrat leader has been pitching his party as the natural place for people who want to oppose Brexit, arguing that his is the only party offering a home to remain voters. But much attention has been turned to his views on the LGBT community, which have been the subject of much concern in recent years.
That came to a head once again when Mr Farron was interviewed on Channel 4 News and refused to deny that he thought that homosexuality is a sin. He said that he would not “make theological announcements”.
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19-04-2017, 19:44
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by passingbat
Well, you brought a smile to my face Andrew. I suppose in your (new?) world, the FT is a Brexit supporting newspaper, CNN supports Trump and Fox News supports Hillary!
I know someone as esteemed as yourself would never touch the 'wacky-baccy' but it does make me wonder
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Ha ha!
To its credit, the BBC acknowledged its shortcomings in its remain/leave news coverage the run-up to the referendum.
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- it failed to describe factually false statements like the £350m going to the NHS as such; instead it stated that "opponents describe this figure as false".
- it followed the news agenda of the red tops. So whatever The Sun and the Daily Mail felt as importance would significantly impact what was covered by the BBC.
- it gave equal weight to arguments even if 99% of experts agreed, it would drag out that sixties hippy from under a stone to give the opposing view. This gave credibility to poor arguments.
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The election is an opportunity for the Liberal Democrats to recover a few seats but his approach to homosexuality is doing him no favours. Theresa May must feel doubly blessed to have him and JC as opposition leaders.
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19-04-2017, 19:55
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Ha ha!
To its credit, the BBC acknowledged its shortcomings in its remain/leave news coverage the run-up to the referendum.
These were:
- it failed to describe factually false statements like the £350m going to the NHS as such; instead it stated that "opponents describe this figure as false".
- it followed the news agenda of the red tops. So whatever The Sun and the Daily Mail felt as importance would significantly impact what was covered by the BBC.
- it gave equal weight to arguments even if 99% of experts agreed, it would drag out that sixties hippy from under a stone to give the opposing view. This gave credibility to poor arguments.
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The election is an opportunity for the Liberal Democrats to recover a few seats but his approach to homosexuality is doing him no favours. Theresa May must feel doubly blessed to have him and JC as opposition leaders.
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Comedian David Baddiel said that people who claimed Tim Farron is talking the most sense had to face up to the fact that “he’s a fundamentalist Christian homophobe”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7690771.html
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19-04-2017, 19:55
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
BREAKING: U.S House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan, who is in London at the moment, has said just now that the U.S is ready to forge a New Bilateral trade deal with the UK as soon as possible. (Of course can only happen once we leave).
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19-04-2017, 20:03
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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BREAKING: U.S House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan, who is in London at the moment, has said just now that the U.S is ready to forge a New Bilateral trade deal with the UK as soon as possible. (Of course can only happen once we leave).
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Everything, th at is currently happening is nothing but all positive in my opinion
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19-04-2017, 20:55
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
There were factual inaccuracies and out and out lies on both sides in the referendum campaign Andrew so get over it both sides treated voters like idiots but no one has a right to moan about it as all they had to do was a bit of research. The lib dems will try every trick to attract the votes of remainers and no doubt a fair few of them will be dumb enough to vote for them because of the EU issue, thankfully the majority will be a little more practical in their voting. My biggest hope is the snp get a good kicking in scotland as i really don't want to see the scots being set against each other again chasing the independence dream.
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19-04-2017, 21:08
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
There were factual inaccuracies and out and out lies on both sides in the referendum campaign Andrew so get over it both sides treated voters like idiots but no one has a right to moan about it as all they had to do was a bit of research. The lib dems will try every trick to attract the votes of remainers and no doubt a fair few of them will be dumb enough to vote for them because of the EU issue, thankfully the majority will be a little more practical in their voting. My biggest hope is the snp get a good kicking in scotland as i really don't want to see the scots being set against each other again chasing the independence dream.
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I was just explaining why the BBC's coverage was biased towards Brexit and acknowledged as such by the Corporation. I was not trying to re-tread old wounds but some people wanted the detail.
For those people, some further evidence of the BBBC's pro-Brexit bias may be seen here:
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Lord Patten, a Conservative peer and former BBC Trust chairman who is in favour of the UK staying in the EU, said it raised eyebrows when weighty figures from the Bank of England and the International Monetary Fund were given equal billing with “some backbencher no one has ever heard of”.
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...n-whittingdale
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19-04-2017, 22:03
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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I was just explaining why the BBC's coverage was biased towards Brexit and acknowledged as such by the Corporation.
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A cursory glance through google reveals:
News- Watch
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in the Corporation’s self-declared agenda-setting business slots, in six months, there were only only 10 contributions from clear supporters of Brexit, ranged against dozens who were not.
small morsels aside, the Corporation is otherwise relentlessly focused on the Remain agenda. There’s a continuing, avid search for anything that suggests that ‘race hate’ has escalated as a result if the Brexit vote; Nigel Farage and Ukip continues to be pilloried – on Wednesday night, BBC1’s main bulletins reported Farage’s contribution to the European Parliamentary debate on Brexit in the worst possible light; and every obstacle in the Brexit negotiations, such as the Gibraltar clause, are seized upon with over- enthusiastic glee.
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It is wearisome work, but I hope the ‘leave’ campaign is carefully monitoring the BBC’s coverage of the referendum. On Monday, the first full weekday since Mr Cameron’s ‘legally binding’ deal, I listened to the Today programme for more than two hours. I heard six speakers for ‘remain’ and two (John Mills and Nigel Lawson) for ‘leave’.
In this I am not including any of the BBC interviewers themselves, though my hunch, based solely on the way they ask questions, is that all of them, with the possible exception of John Humphrys, are for ‘remain’. The guests explicitly in favour of ‘remain’ were Carolyn Fairbairn, Sir Mike Rake, Stanley Johnson and Michael Fallon. Jonathan Portes, who is always presented by the BBC as a neutral expert, was actually pushing the EU cause.
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19-04-2017, 22:17
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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You do realise that everyone's Google search results differ don't you, so this does not surprise me.
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19-04-2017, 22:21
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
At least RR posted a link to his findings.
You on the other hand...
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19-04-2017, 22:30
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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You do realise that everyone's Google search results differ don't you, so this does not surprise me.
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That doesn't mean that those articles are only out there for me! It's not like they have been written for me personally to read. You can find them as well.
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19-04-2017, 23:10
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Tim Farron <snip>“he’s a fundamentalist Christian”.
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That, he is not.
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19-04-2017, 23:59
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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At least RR posted a link to his findings.
You on the other hand...
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Also posted a link in #1284 and in previous discussions on the topic.
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That, he is not.
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How would you describe his religious beliefs?
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