Netflix/Streaming Services
08-01-2014, 14:22
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I agree! There's more decent material on Netflix than all the Sky channels put together (sport excluded of course)!
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I agree. I think Netflix are in a stronger position than Sky channels in terms of airing new content, with the possible exception of Sky Atalantic (not in my eyes though). IMHO Netflix do not need to fill time slots on various channels, whereas Sky do. As such I think the Sky channels have to rubber stamp some pretty poor series just to fill the time slots and also try and chase ratings. Whilst Netflix will also want new content, I think they can be considerably more choosy with the new content they will help to fund as they have no time slots to fill. They have no real need to worry about subscriptions (viewing figures) because they have already built up a strong fanbase already and have garnered considerable profits. The result is Netflix (with its movie selection and considerable on demand content) will continue to grow stronger and stronger, whilst Sky will struggle with acquiring decent new content and rely more and more on movies and sports - both of which will come under considerable pressure from the next round of bidding wars.
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08-01-2014, 14:45
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gonna look into this at weekend. any 1 know if this apply's to ppl, that work for VM & already get reduction ?? or is loyalty discount something diff all together ??
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08-01-2014, 15:21
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Hopefully the relationship Netflix has with AMC will grow in future and perhaps other channels will get on board. Getting Breaking Bad and The Killing on Netflix hours after they aired in the US last year was great, no need to pirate them at all then This year we have the BB spin-off Better Call Saul in the same way so the relationship is still there and they couldn't have chosen a better channel to get in bed with. AMC are right up there with HBO these days for dramas IMO.
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08-01-2014, 16:06
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re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch
I agree. I think Netflix are in a stronger position than Sky channels in terms of airing new content, with the possible exception of Sky Atalantic (not in my eyes though). IMHO Netflix do not need to fill time slots on various channels, whereas Sky do. As such I think the Sky channels have to rubber stamp some pretty poor series just to fill the time slots and also try and chase ratings. Whilst Netflix will also want new content, I think they can be considerably more choosy with the new content they will help to fund as they have no time slots to fill. They have no real need to worry about subscriptions (viewing figures) because they have already built up a strong fanbase already and have garnered considerable profits. The result is Netflix (with its movie selection and considerable on demand content) will continue to grow stronger and stronger, whilst Sky will struggle with acquiring decent new content and rely more and more on movies and sports - both of which will come under considerable pressure from the next round of bidding wars.
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Sky has already stated their aim is to become less and less reliant on having to acquire content , they've pledged to increase spending on homegrown content to £600 million a year by the end of this year they've also created content with numerous worldwide broadcasters such as Canal + , Cinemax (HBO) , Showtime and NBC.
In September 2013 eight of its top ten shows were made and commissioned by Sky , clearly content is subjective however I think they'll continue along this path of having a mix of homegrown content along with US acquisitions.
Netflix will continue with its original content whilst innovating with its technology in my opinion.
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08-01-2014, 16:52
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I think Dracula was one of their latest series, what a load of rubbish.
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08-01-2014, 17:02
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
In September 2013 eight of its top ten shows were made and commissioned by Sky.
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Any idea what those 10 shows are, and which are the 8 commissioned by Sky?
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08-01-2014, 17:13
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Originally Posted by nicknewark
I think Dracula was one of their latest series, what a load of rubbish.
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In your opinion, my daughters and wife love it.
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08-01-2014, 17:25
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Originally Posted by nicknewark
I think Dracula was one of their latest series, what a load of rubbish.
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I actually wasn't that keen myself but as I said all content is subjective. There's many on here watch the likes of EastEnders , Big Brother , I'm a celebrity personally I couldn't think of anything worse but in a multichannel world that's the beauty of choice.
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Any idea what those 10 shows are, and which are the 8 commissioned by Sky?
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All available on the Sky Views website.
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Originally Posted by alwaysabear
In your opinion, my daughters and wife love it.
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Thanks that proves my original point content is subjective.
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08-01-2014, 17:49
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Indeed it is as l cannot believe the rubbish some people watch but if we all had the same tastes then life would be very boring.
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08-01-2014, 18:09
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Just started watching The Riches
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08-01-2014, 18:23
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re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Sky has already stated their aim is to become less and less reliant on having to acquire content , they've pledged to increase spending on homegrown content to £600 million a year by the end of this year they've also created content with numerous worldwide broadcasters such as Canal + , Cinemax (HBO) , Showtime and NBC.
In September 2013 eight of its top ten shows were made and commissioned by Sky , clearly content is subjective however I think they'll continue along this path of having a mix of homegrown content along with US acquisitions.
Netflix will continue with its original content whilst innovating with its technology in my opinion.
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You should work for Sky's media relations.
Just because Sky are aiming to make it's own content, does not mean it will be any better than some of the guff (imo) they are churning out now. It may well be high quality content that is made in the future, but I simply do not see it. Netflix may also produce complete dross in future.
My point was that Netflix can be more selective of what is perceived as better content in future than Sky because they do not have fill schedules on various channels. Netflix can wait for a long time before accepting a new script/program, Sky will have to a pick the best of a bad bunch because they have to fill schedules and generate money through advertising revenues.
Also, it really does not matter who Sky produce content with, it is not a guarantee of quality. They could work with the original producers/writers/directors of The Killing to get a British remake, does not mean it will be any good.
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08-01-2014, 18:25
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
All available on the Sky Views website.
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Yeah; that's the very first site I look at, each and every day
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08-01-2014, 18:40
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch
You should work for Sky's media relations.
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They couldn't afford me
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Originally Posted by passingbat
Yeah; that's the very first site I look at, each and every day
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You did ask it was all over the web news sites the other month with a link to the source.
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08-01-2014, 18:51
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Details on the Scifi series the Wachowski brothers are making for Netflix are coming out now http://www.tvrage.com/news/8917/deta...riginal-sense8
Should be good with them and the guy who made Babylon 5 behind it.
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08-01-2014, 18:57
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re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by harry_hitch
You should work for Sky's media relations.
Just because Sky are aiming to make it's own content, does not mean it will be any better than some of the guff (imo) they are churning out now. It may well be high quality content that is made in the future, but I simply do not see it. Netflix may also produce complete dross in future.
My point was that Netflix can be more selective of what is perceived as better content in future than Sky because they do not have fill schedules on various channels. Netflix can wait for a long time before accepting a new script/program, Sky will have to a pick the best of a bad bunch because they have to fill schedules and generate money through advertising revenues.
Also, it really does not matter who Sky produce content with, it is not a guarantee of quality. They could work with the original producers/writers/directors of The Killing to get a British remake, does not mean it will be any good.
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The way things are going, Sky had to consider a different way of operating in the future. Having been slow to get off the ground with VOD, it now realises that this is the way to go.
But they want also to keep their channels going for as long as possible, and with the increasing competition for US content, they made the right call in deciding to commission their own material.
If they can come up with good cutting edge dramas like Strike Back, things will definitely improve, but as you say, they will still have to fill in hours of scheduling, which will continue to be filled with dross because it's cheap.
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