14-06-2008, 00:16
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by jelv
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A thought which might make politicians start to take notice: How about we start a new political party with the aim of having a candidate standing in every constituency at the next general election?
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jelv posted this before the David Davis resignation.
Why don't we put up a candidate in the by-election?
Do we have any anti-phormites in that constituency, or anyone with contacts that live there?
As far as I know we would need two people to second a nomination (resident in the constituency?) and a £500 deposit. There could be a load of publicity.
EDIT : Haltemprice and Howden is near Hull btw, I just looked it up.
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14-06-2008, 00:23
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Agree completely with Mark777... We need to get the complaints in *before* next Friday about the way the case has been handled by the ICO, Home Office and Police forces.
Pete.
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These would be brilliant to hand out at the demo as Postcards.
I'll work on the one-page soundbite flyer over the weekend.
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14-06-2008, 00:27
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Wildie
just for the hell of it so they cannot id you all and profile you at the protest and serve you fliers.
http://tinyurl.com/3gkjec
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Weird!!!
That is the face of a well known terrorist ( Guy Fawkes ). Then I remember seeing several people wearing that mask on the news the otherday at another protest.
I just noticed the terrorist "V" is on TV right now my time 12:20am Sky Screen 2
" V for Vendetta"
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Remember, remember the 5th of November!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XKa8VE7ILI
Wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta_(film)
It's an upto date tale of Orwellian oppression.. coincidence David Davis resigned?
Note: It gets stranger and stranger... The Telegraph have already portrayed David Davis as a Guy Fawkes suicide terrorist bomber in this remarkable animated cartoon. (1m1s) short video. What a disgusting way for people to treat the only politician with enough guts to challenge the threat to British freedom and privacy with such contempt.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/2119153/Last-scalp-to-be-claimed-could-be-David-Davis%27s.html
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14-06-2008, 00:35
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by warescouse
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Just had another look at this. It seems my zone alarm pro flags all tinyurl links as bad and disconnects. Sorry.
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14-06-2008, 00:51
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Well everyone seems to be doing it.
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14-06-2008, 01:04
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Notice the Telegraph doesn't have the courage to allow people to comment on how thye present any news. Is it worth reading then...
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14-06-2008, 01:23
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by BadPhormula
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That is distasteful in the extreme.
In a healthy society, people have the right to a different opinion, and respect for their differing views.
This prevailing 'you're either compliant, or you support the terrorists' thing is getting deeply insidious.
Its exactly what Orwell's 1984 predicts. A daily period of "two minutes hate" when we must express our hatred for enemies, and the principles of democracy.
Set me free.
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14-06-2008, 01:36
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Dephormation
That is distasteful in the extreme.
In a healthy society, people have the right to a different opinion, and respect for their differing views.
This prevailing 'you're either compliant, or you support the terrorists' thing is getting deeply insidious.
Its exactly what Orwell's 1984 predicts. A daily period of "two minutes hate" when we must express our hatred for enemies, and the principles of democracy.
Set me free.
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Sad isn't it
Btw Pete in the V for Vendetta film the Orwellian dictator High Chancellor Adam Sutler is played by John Hurt who played another role back in the 80's, a little known about film called " 1984" (Nineteen Eighty-Four) can't remember exactly what the film was about but his character was Winston Smith. (Sir Richard Burton played a very sinister O'Brien)
If you don't have this film in your DVD collection, just keep your eyes open in the TV listing for 1984 (Nineteen Eighty-Four) it is sometimes repeated on Channel 4 (who knows it could be coincidence that it will appear very shortly?!?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_%28film%29 [ Wiki LINK ]
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14-06-2008, 01:59
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (Spokesperson in the Lords, Home Affairs; Liberal Democrat)
I was talking with the chief executive of Phorm this week who told me that once something is stored you have lost control over it. Phorm has been the subject of an interesting article in the Economist recently which some of your Lordships may have read. It is a company on the cutting edge of what can protect the public. A bit of controversy surrounds its work because, with its client BT, it intercepted people's online business without BT customers knowing. But Phorm is certainly correct when it says that if consumers knew what was actually stored they would decide to opt for true anonymity online. This is what Phorm is trying to develop with major telecommunications clients on a global scale.
Oh for Gods sake. The Liberal democrats of all people. FFS.
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14-06-2008, 02:12
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Dephormation
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (Spokesperson in the Lords, Home Affairs; Liberal Democrat)
I was talking with the chief executive of Phorm this week who told me that once something is stored you have lost control over it. Phorm has been the subject of an interesting article in the Economist recently which some of your Lordships may have read. It is a company on the cutting edge of what can protect the public. A bit of controversy surrounds its work because, with its client BT, it intercepted people's online business without BT customers knowing. But Phorm is certainly correct when it says that if consumers knew what was actually stored they would decide to opt for true anonymity online. This is what Phorm is trying to develop with major telecommunications clients on a global scale.
Oh for Gods sake. The Liberal democrats of all people. FFS.
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Bloody ridiculous! Are !WE! and only one politician the only ph~ckers that can see what is going on? Phorm is straight out of a George Orwell nightmare, its double speak psychology about protecting privacy by reading everything, all our private online thoughts is the biggest danger the British have faced since world war II. Terrorist like the 7/7 bombers will come and go BUT Phorm once it has managed to slip its sinister feet under the table will be the biggest threat EVER to freedom, liberty and privacy. Why can't those idiots get it through their thick skulls how dangerous Phorm really is!
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14-06-2008, 02:19
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by BadPhormula
Bloody ridiculous! Are !WE! and only one politician the only ph~ckers that can see what is going on? Phorm is straight out of a George Orwell nightmare, its double speak psychology about protecting privacy by reading everything, all our private online thoughts is the biggest danger the British have faced since world war II. Terrorist like the 7/7 bombers will come and go BUT Phorm once it has managed to slip its sinister feet under the table will be the biggest threat EVER to freedom, liberty and privacy. Why can't those idiots get it through their thick skulls how dangerous Phorm really is!
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My printer's whirling away right now. That lady needs a bit of a clue stick.
There's a point with Phorm when you finally 'get it', and that's the point you know you must never let it happen.
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14-06-2008, 02:36
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Dephormation
My printer's whirling away right now. That lady needs a bit of a clue stick.
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We need a massive letter campaign, again, to MP's, MEP's, Lords, misguided Baroness's and the EU.
It is clear to see what BT and Phorm have been up to, while all our previous letters have been referred to DBERR (or whatever Jim Hacker's Dept of Administrative Affairs is now called).
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14-06-2008, 02:45
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Dephormation
My printer's whirling away right now. That lady needs a bit of a clue stick.
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I'm sure she hasn't got a clue what a rootkit is either but just let her know that "the rootkit" is the most sinister weapon in the criminal hackers arsenal. Once the criminal hacker has broken into his victims machine he needs to stay on the machine like a parasite, and to go into to deep stealth mode into order to not be removed while he continues to manipulate and use the owner for whatever his sinister intentions are.
And guess what Phorm developed the most sinister rootkit and injected it into millions of computers around the world in 2005/2006. (The Apropos rootkit) Something former BT CTO criminal Stratis Scleparis knew about before he allowed 121Media(Phorm) hackers onto the BT premises to break the law and spy on many 10's of thousands of customers with their new Intra-ISP Rootkit.
Read about Phorm's privacy credentials here:
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001420.html
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It has also come to our attention that Phorm was previously known as 121Media.
121Media was the company behind the brand PeopleOnPage. PeopleOnPage is the friendly wrapper around the advertisement engine ContextPlus. Another wrapper was called Apropos, which was one of the most widespread malicious rootkits of 2005. In 2006 the heat was too much and they shut it down. DNS registrars and website content supported that they were all in it together.
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Apropos:
http://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/apropos.shtml
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14-06-2008, 02:48
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by mark777
We need a massive letter campaign, again, to MP's, MEP's, Lords, misguided Baroness's and the EU.
It is clear to see what BT and Phorm have been up to, while all our previous letters have been referred to DBERR (or whatever Jim Hacker's Dept of Administrative Affairs is now called).
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I'm obviously doing something wrong. I've offered over and over again to go to Westminster and advise my MP, Don Foster, Home Office, DfBERR. If I say so myself, I think I'm quite well qualified to do it too.
FFS. Going to bed. This stuff just enrages me more and more and more every passing day.
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14-06-2008, 02:48
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Read the comic, V for Vendetta, it is a masterpiece, the film is so watered down it's pathetic.
[QUOTE: Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer]I was talking with the chief executive of Phorm this week who told me that once something is stored you have lost control over it... A bit of controversy surrounds its work...[regarding the PIA process]As far as I can establish, none has been conducted on the proposed national ID card scheme...[/QUOTE]
So once it's been stored "temporarily" on the profiler, I can assume I've lost control of my data.
Was this Kent or Hugo? The charmers. Good to see (alleged) criminals mixing with lords. Maybe they are trying to put some work Simons way. Favours for favours(or votes), isn't that how the system works?
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