31-10-2015, 13:13
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Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by Mark_Lunn
I have had a slow TiVo box for a few years so switched it off and on again loads of times that helped a little. I think I've found a cure for it I purchased some cheap powerline adapters and linked my router up to the TiVo box and this has cured my slow TiVo. I hope this helps some of you
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Originally Posted by stuntmaster
...(you) might be might be onto something
What if.... the TiVo's internet route is socket 1 - Ethernet if that fails it moves to socket 2 - Built in cable modem.
Mines hooked up and is fairly nippy.....
We know the TiVo polls the database frequently and when navigating menus talks to the servers.....
it might be that his tivo service area is poor so his built in 10 meg is like 2.... and his broadband say is 50 is more like 20....
catch my drift?
I need to wireshark the tivo ethernet to see what it does.
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Do those with more technical knowledge than me about such things think that this will improve the speed of a VM TiVo box?
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31-10-2015, 14:13
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
No that would not in any way speed up the TiVo. Its connection is used for the apps and On Demand.
The OS and general operation of TiVo are not governed by its internet connection. Only a faster CPU or more RAM would have any actual effect on it.
AFAIK the connection to the VM router would only be used for streaming recordings from one box to another or using the VM app as a remote control.
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31-10-2015, 17:59
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by Stephen
No that would not in any way speed up the TiVo. Its connection is used for the apps and On Demand.
The OS and general operation of TiVo are not governed by its internet connection. Only a faster CPU or more RAM would have any actual effect on it.
AFAIK the connection to the VM router would only be used for streaming recordings from one box to another or using the VM app as a remote control.
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You are totally correct, i'm hopeing the next versions comes with a decent app store and enough RAM to make it future proof...
Also cloud stored recordings wouldn't go a miss lol
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04-11-2015, 16:38
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
I have slow response times to actions performed on my 1TB Tivo box.
It's about 70% full of recordings but deleting recordings or just scrolling through the options can take what seems an eternity and you get tired of just seeing the 'whirly circle' each time.
Does anyone know for definite if there are any plans to improve the speed of the Tivo in any immediate release ???
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04-11-2015, 16:55
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by Timbo7
I have slow response times to actions performed on my 1TB Tivo box.
It's about 70% full of recordings but deleting recordings or just scrolling through the options can take what seems an eternity and you get tired of just seeing the 'whirly circle' each time.
Does anyone know for definite if there are any plans to improve the speed of the Tivo in any immediate release ???
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The tivo has been out for years, if they could make it faster then it would be
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05-11-2015, 10:40
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by jb66
The tivo has been out for years, if they could make it faster then it would be
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To be honest I feel my boxes were more stable and less sluggish before they moved over to the Haxe platform.
I wouldn't be surprised if what I am seeing (and I don't think I'm alone) is simply the result of the developers having to convert code from the Air platform to Haxe, without the full knowledge of how to develop the most efficient software for the latter due to inexperience in working with it.
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05-11-2015, 11:12
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
The slowness is mainly due to Linux paging. It has got worse over time due to the number of applications growing. Some changes are planned which may alleviate it, but it's too early to be certain.
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05-11-2015, 11:56
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
The slowness is mainly due to Linux paging. It has got worse over time due to the number of applications growing. Some changes are planned which may alleviate it, but it's too early to be certain.
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Paging (or more likely in this case increased swapping to and from the disk) is just a symptom not the cause.
So are you saying that the new apps are running in memory and therefore reducing the amount of physical memory available to the normal TiVO process or have these apps taken up too much space on the disk reducing the available swap space?
The first would be a sign of poorly implemented code that has a memory leak or needlessly trying to run every app at once. The latter would be utter madness on a closed architecture device.
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05-11-2015, 13:53
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by mike_gain
Paging (or more likely in this case increased swapping to and from the disk) is just a symptom not the cause.
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No, slowness is the symptom  . Paging/swapping is the cause. (I know the terms are used interchangeably, but I was taught that swapping is copying whole processes/programs and paging is copying fixed-size pages). Anyway...
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Originally Posted by mike_gain
So are you saying that the new apps are running in memory and therefore reducing the amount of physical memory available to the normal TiVO process or have these apps taken up too much space on the disk reducing the available swap space?
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Neither. The apps themselves aren't permanently held in memory, but the software needed to support them, such as codecs and interpreters, is. This is what has grown over time. But as the apps develop, some support software may become redundant and can be removed.
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05-11-2015, 14:37
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
Neither. The apps themselves aren't permanently held in memory, but the software needed to support them, such as codecs and interpreters, is. This is what has grown over time. But as the apps develop, some support software may become redundant and can be removed.
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I'd just about be happy to accept this if it meant that the iPlayer and Netflix loaded quickly but they don't. As it stands, if I understand what you are saying, my box has become sluggish to allow a load of apps I never use, and because they have been developed by the summer placement in some shoddy software house, to dump their rubbish in physical memory leaving no room for my "Planned Recordings" request to be processed. Frankly, if this is the case, it is embarrassing for TiVo and VM. You've allowed some cowboys to trash your product.
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06-11-2015, 18:10
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
Our Tivo seems to be getting slower and slower as time passes. It's really annoying.
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06-11-2015, 20:33
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by starfish
Our Tivo seems to be getting slower and slower as time passes. It's really annoying.
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Ours too, I'm getting the purple circle daily, even after reboots. Only at 22% recordings.
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07-11-2015, 06:51
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
Remember there are 3 million TiVo users and most of them are perfectly happy as things stand...
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07-11-2015, 13:09
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Re: Will this speed up TiVo?
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
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I think that scrapping the apps on the Tivo would be a major mistake and a move in the wrong direction.
What we need is faster responses, not deterioration of services.
About 40% of my viewing is through various apps these days. The old method of watching TV is fast becoming outmoded, Richard.
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