NTL unbundle digital from Telco

Motorman · 11-01-2005, 10:23

At long last. They have finally done it.
It will now be possible to have digital without the telephone line.
An offer is imminent which customers can buy any speed modem and get the digital base pack free of charge for 6 months, or upgrade to the family pack for ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£10

There is no requirement for a telephone line to be subscribed to.

Neil · 11-01-2005, 10:27

If this is true, then it is a massive move for ntl & their customers, & I for one applaud it.

Do you have a link to his information, or anything to substantiate it?
(Not that I doubt you, but we really do need some form of evidence to support your post

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[Edit]-Perhaps ntl have been listening to me harp on about how wrong it is of them to force their phone lines on DTV customers?

[Edit 2]-Having re-read your post, their is nothing their to suggest any 'unbundling' of any description.

There is an offer currently I believe of free DTV for new BB customers, but the requirement is still to have an ntl phone line.

Or am I missing something?

bob_builder · 11-01-2005, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Neil

There is an offer currently I believe of free DTV for new BB customers, but the requirement is still to have an ntl phone line.

Or am I missing something?

Technically, you do not have to have the telephone line installed if you do not want it but you would still have to pay for it after the free offer ended.

Graham F · 11-01-2005, 10:50

I find it hard to believe as it would take ntl ages to break even on a digital only customer ...

etccarmageddon · 11-01-2005, 11:12

they would only be able to unbundle the phone line if the price of a STB had tumbled to peanuts.

11-01-2005, 12:49

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Originally Posted by Motorman

At long last. They have finally done it.
It will now be possible to have digital without the telephone line.
An offer is imminent which customers can buy any speed modem and get the digital base pack free of charge for 6 months, or upgrade to the family pack for ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£10

There is no requirement for a telephone line to be subscribed to.

Personally I find this suggestion from today's Guardian far more appealing: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/s...387377,00.html

To clarify, it's this idea I like: "There is a growing desire among telecoms companies for NTL and Telewest, whose fibre-optic cables reach more than 13 million UK homes, to open up their networks so other companies can provide services such as broadband internet access. "

Neil · 11-01-2005, 12:53

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Originally Posted by andyl

Personally I find this suggestion from today's Guardian far more appealing: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/s...387377,00.html

To clarify, it's this idea I like: "There is a growing desire among telecoms companies for NTL and Telewest, whose fibre-optic cables reach more than 13 million UK homes, to open up their networks so other companies can provide services such as broadband internet access. "

That's a good article Andy, just a little

11-01-2005, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Neil

That's a good article Andy, just a little

Sorry Neil, never have been very good at keeping to the point. A new thread perhaps?!

Neil · 11-01-2005, 13:02

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Originally Posted by andyl

Sorry Neil, never have been very good at keeping to the point. A new thread perhaps?!

Definately m8, like I said-a great article/post, & one sure to get a good debate going.

jrhnewark · 30-01-2005, 18:01

It would be good if NTL and Telewest opened their networks - if they merge, as that article says, they'll probably have to.

Digital without a phoneline? One way to go bankrupt...

lohwj · 02-02-2005, 02:16

Any news on this then? Was just on the ntl site, and still saw that the phone line was compulsory still..

No use to me though, as I'm still stuck on analogue here in Westminster

Although, when, or if actually, digital is available here, I don't actually want the phone line...

jrhnewark · 02-02-2005, 02:36

I'd LOVE to live in Westminster... what's it really like?

Although, it's hard to think that we really have better all round communications here in Notts!

Okonski · 17-02-2005, 15:41

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Originally Posted by lohwj

Any news on this then? Was just on the ntl site, and still saw that the phone line was compulsory still..

I spoke with a CS staff member at ntl's Bellshill centre and was told there was now NO requirement to take telephony. I was also told the pricing. ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£19.99 for the Family Pack (which is ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£29.99 WITH phone), so the figures and tariff seemed plausible. Having discussed it with the missus, and called back to arrange it - all I've spoken to - probably different call centres - that you cannot have it without phone, or phone stays unconnected. Either way, Family pack costs ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£29.99.

Is anyone aware of the true situation? Yes, I'm aware what it says on the website, but was told by the agent that it hadn't been updated.

Confusing, or what?

jrhnewark · 17-02-2005, 15:47

I'd really like to find out the truth here. We want to leave phone and broadband in December, but keep TV.

Preferably, just the Base Pack.

SMHarman · 17-02-2005, 16:15

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Originally Posted by Graham F

I find it hard to believe as it would take ntl ages to break even on a digital only customer ...

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

they would only be able to unbundle the phone line if the price of a STB had tumbled to peanuts.

Then how do Time Warner cable (US) do it when they don't carry a telco line to the house. The telco is carried by the former baby bell. The only telco Time Warner Cable can offer is IP telephony.