ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase - Page 89

Hans Gruber · 24-10-2005, 09:39

Well it's nice to see we get a better upload speed than Telewest

markknell · 24-10-2005, 09:44

So don't you think that NTL are wrong to release such a product if they are trying to squeeze so much down a small pipe ?

Hans Gruber · 24-10-2005, 09:47

8mbit is still faster than 3mbit, and you never know, they may have chosen that area as it has particually high usage.

markknell · 24-10-2005, 09:58

True, I guess we will have to wait and see. I'm sure the coming week will reveal more details as more people get on it.

I just have this thought in the back of my mind we are never going to see 10mb. Ntl might as well be saying it's 'up to' 100mb. It's pointless if you never get that speed. Saying you'll get it at 4am is not really a valid response.

SMHarman · 24-10-2005, 10:48

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Originally Posted by markknell

True, I guess we will have to wait and see. I'm sure the coming week will reveal more details as more people get on it.

I just have this thought in the back of my mind we are never going to see 10mb. Ntl might as well be saying it's 'up to' 100mb. It's pointless if you never get that speed. Saying you'll get it at 4am is not really a valid response.

True, but all my NIC cards are 100mb, my router is supposedly 100mb, but PC-PC traffic is not 100mb, not even at 4am. Who do I complain to there?

SmellyKipper · 24-10-2005, 10:59

Edit (Jon M) - Regardless of your standpoint on illegal activities, we don't allow the discussion of cloning or related practices.

Robc66 · 24-10-2005, 11:44

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Originally Posted by SmellyKipper

It looks as if they have started rolling, i`ve read reports on a dodgy site that they are clonning these 10 meg mac addresses already (NTL And Ex Cw)

They are using these in Glasgow, Northants, Nottingham and East London.

So non paying customers are getting the 10mb before us ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£37.99 paying customers. Oh humbug

I am just happy about the upload speed of 512k

it should fly compared to the 300k I have now

markknell · 24-10-2005, 11:44

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

True, but all my NIC cards are 100mb, my router is supposedly 100mb, but PC-PC traffic is not 100mb, not even at 4am. Who do I complain to there?

Yes I understand what you are saying but I don't think people will see it in the same light. When NTL or anyone else advertise numbers, ie 10mb, that's what people will expect.

I imagine nearly all ISP's will have this issue in the future and some careful marketing will need to be addressed.

SMHarman · 24-10-2005, 12:04

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Originally Posted by markknell

Yes I understand what you are saying but I don't think people will see it in the same light. When NTL or anyone else advertise numbers, ie 10mb, that's what people will expect.

I imagine nearly all ISP's will have this issue in the future and some careful marketing will need to be addressed.

I'm not sure - user of this and similar boards may care whether they are getting 10Mb or not, your average user will just notice that their BB got one helluva lot faster (1 or 2Mb to 10Mb) Even if that is 1>8 or 2>8 most of the time that is still at least 4x quicker.

Most users will not go to a BB speed checker and find out whether they are actually getting 10Mb at 7pm. Most users will just notice that their pages load propmptly and their email sends and recieves quicker.

Gamers (possibly a more specialilsed subset) will notice if their pings get higher due to traffic congestion at UBRs but that will be a wait and see / traffic management issue.

Back to the car analagy - my car handbook says it goes at 130mph, does it - I don't know, but it certainly goes fast enough for everyday use. To consider the increase in other terms, if someone told me my commute to work would be reduced to 1/5 of the current time most of the time, but sometimes this new improved commute speed would mean that it took the same time as it currently does or some time between I would be happy. Maybe the marketing will move away from speed at some point, especially as at 10Mb we are hitting a point where additional speed will not benefit the end user greatly, bit like cars that have top speeds of 130, 150, 180 mph, really does not benefit the user day to day.

Safeman · 24-10-2005, 12:06

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Originally Posted by SmellyKipper

Edit (Jon M) - Regardless of your standpoint on illegal activities, we don't allow the discussion of cloning or related practices.

SmellyKiper is this true about non customers getting it before us thats BS

Hans Gruber · 24-10-2005, 12:08

pings must be the 0-60 equivalent then

24-10-2005, 12:11

Well I've just rebooted my modem and it's still on the same speed as before.

markknell · 24-10-2005, 12:12

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

I'm not sure - user of this and similar boards may care whether they are getting 10Mb or not, your average user will just notice that their BB got one helluva lot faster (1 or 2Mb to 10Mb) Even if that is 1>8 or 2>8 most of the time that is still at least 4x quicker.

Most users will not go to a BB speed checker and find out whether they are actually getting 10Mb at 7pm. Most users will just notice that their pages load propmptly and their email sends and recieves quicker.

Gamers (possibly a more specialilsed subset) will notice if their pings get higher due to traffic congestion at UBRs but that will be a wait and see / traffic management issue.

Back to the car analagy - my car handbook says it goes at 130mph, does it - I don't know, but it certainly goes fast enough for everyday use. To consider the increase in other terms, if someone told me my commute to work would be reduced to 1/5 of the current time most of the time, but sometimes this new improved commute speed would mean that it took the same time as it currently does or some time between I would be happy. Maybe the marketing will move away from speed at some point, especially as at 10Mb we are hitting a point where additional speed will not benefit the end user greatly, bit like cars that have top speeds of 130, 150, 180 mph, really does not benefit the user day to day.

The only time I run a speed test is if I feel things are not quite what they should be. I'm quite happy with the speed I'm on but any increase is welcome.

All I'm saying is when a company advertise a speed, there are going to be a small group of people unhappy they are not getting it. The same goes for ADSL Max, again, anything up to 8mb. Some people may only get 4mb. You can imagine the pointless discussion on Dog Watch, sorry I mean Watch Dog.

Like I said, careful marketing is required.

SmellyKipper · 24-10-2005, 12:13

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Originally Posted by Safeman

SmellyKiper is this true about non customers getting it before us thats BS

Edit (Jon M) - Regardless of your standpoint on illegal activities, we don't allow the discussion of cloning or related practices.

DrK · 24-10-2005, 12:42

Question, as some members are NTL workers, wouldnt NTL be informed very soon about this. how easy is it too identify and stop?