Coronavirus (OLD)

[Hom3r]

Our HR manager knows the people who take the mike.

Trouble is if you go of ill with Covid symptons, you could look a tit a month later when you do get it.

[SnoopZ]

As we manufacture where I work we are classed as essential(luckily), we have been told we will still receive full wages whether we have to self isolate or actually have the virus.

[Hom3r]

Our boss cares more about his bonus than he does closing for 3 weeks.

Mind you it was quiet to and from work.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Our HR manager knows the people who take the mike.

Trouble is if you go of ill with Covid symptons, you could look a tit a month later when you do get it.

You look more of a tit if you go in with the virus and take down most of the workforce, and endanger lives. If they had pulled their fingers out with testing then this wouldn't be an issue.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Mr K

You look more of a tit if you go in with the virus and take down most of the workforce, and endanger lives. If they had pulled their fingers out with testing then this wouldn't be an issue.

What is the point of testing when it might be at the stage where it doesn't show up or you might pick up the virus just seconds later.

[pip08456]

Just to lighten things up a bit,

[jfman]

Originally Posted by nomadking

What is the point of testing when it might be at the stage where it doesn't show up or you might pick up the virus just seconds later.

Because both of these eventualities are statistically unlikely.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by nomadking

What is the point of testing when it might be at the stage where it doesn't show up or you might pick up the virus just seconds later.

Thats weird thinking, both those things are possible. But knowing whether you're infectious or possibly immune/not infected and able to return to work would be handy. Hence the Govt. belatedly scrambling to buy 3.5 million tests. Lots are self isolating unecessarily as they don't know, it's crippling the NHS with absent staff.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Thats weird thinking, both those things are possible. But knowing whether you're infectious or possibly immune/not infected and able to return to work would be handy. Hence the Govt. belatedly scrambling to buy 3.5 million tests. Lots are self isolating unecessarily as they don't know, it's crippling the NHS with absent staff.

No-one is self isolating unnecessarily.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by pip08456

No-one is self isolating unnecessarily.

A lot are as we aren't testing. Those countries that have got on top on this (eg S Korea) have tested much more widely than we have. Knowledge is power. Our Govts. response has been a shambles.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jfman

Because both of these eventualities are statistically unlikely.

Only as "unlikely" as getting it in the first place. There isn't a "time of the month" when it can only happen. The test isn't currently a quick one like a pregnancy test.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Only as "unlikely" as getting it in the first place. There isn't a "time of the month" when it can only happen. The test isn't currently a quick one like a pregnancy test.

No it isn’t because you are putting a time on it, whereas the chances of getting coronavirus over an infinite period of time is infinitely higher. There’s value in it being right 99.999% of the time and the recipient of the test taking the appropriate action.

I suppose there’s no point screening for breast cancer or prostate cancer - after all the person getting the test could start to develop it the next week?

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Originally Posted by pip08456

No-one is self isolating unnecessarily.

Indeed but we can’t confirm whether those who are have coronavirus or a a mild cold. That could have consequences further down the line.

[RichardCoulter]

The NHS is “rallying the troops” for the war on coronavirus, with volunteers being called up to help vulnerable people stay safe and well at home.
The nation is looking for up to 250,000 volunteers to help up to 1.5 million people who have been asked to shield themselves from coronavirus because of underlying health conditions.
Members of the public can sign up quickly and easily at goodsamapp.org/NHS to become NHS Volunteer Responders, and can be called on to do simple but vital tasks such as:
– delivering medicines from pharmacies;
– driving patients to appointments;
– bringing them home from hospital;
– or making regular phone calls to check on people isolating at home.
NHS Volunteer Responders is not intended to replace local groups helping their vulnerable neighbours but is an additional service provided by the NHS.
GPs, doctors, pharmacists, nurses, midwives, NHS 111 advisers and social care staff will all be able to request help for their at-risk patients via a call centre run by the Royal Voluntary Service (RVS), who will match people who need help with volunteers who live near to them. Some charities will also be able to refer people to the service.
https://www.goodsamapp.org/NHS

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jfman

No it isn’t because you are putting a time on it, whereas the chances of getting coronavirus over an infinite period of time is infinitely higher. There’s value in it being right 99.999% of the time and the recipient of the test taking the appropriate action.

I suppose there’s no point screening for breast cancer or prostate cancer - after all the person getting the test could start to develop it the next week?

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Indeed but we can’t confirm whether those who are have coronavirus or a a mild cold. That could have consequences further down the line.

Cancer can also be in too early a stage to detect. It may be in the process of developing or yet to start to develop. With cancer there is a larger time frame between where it is at a detectable stage and it is actually detected, ie years.



"Just seconds later" could just as easily have been "just minutes later", "just hours later", or "just days later". Principal is the same.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Cancer can also be in too early a stage to detect. It may be in the process of developing or yet to start to develop. With cancer there is a larger time frame between where it is at a detectable stage and it is actually detected, ie years.

"Just seconds later" could just as easily have been "just minutes later", "just hours later", or "just days later". Principal is the same.

At least you are being consistent.