Scrap TV license fees?

Originally Posted by orangebird

Last month, I paid over £1k in tax an NI. To go towards stupid bloody child trust funds, and free housing for pikeys who can't be arsed to work amongst other.

Translation: Screw the rest of you, I'm alright Jack...

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Graham

Translation: Screw the rest of you, I'm alright Jack...

Frankly, yes. A grand a month I think is plenty to involuntarily contribute. I work my arse of at two jobs, have never been unemployed or claimed benefit, yet I get jack ***** out of the state. I'm ******ed off with funding other peoples wants and needs.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Frankly, yes. A grand a month I think is plenty to involuntarily contribute. I work my arse of at two jobs, have never been unemployed or claimed benefit, yet I get jack ***** out of the state. I'm ******ed off with funding other peoples wants and needs.

Fine.

And as someone said in another thread words to the effect that: "If you don't like it, why don't you leave the country"

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Graham

Fine.

And as someone said in another thread words to the effect that: "If you don't like it, why don't you leave the country"

Because I was born here, so was my father, so was his. Why should I have to leave a country that I've worked ghard and paid my way in. And lets face it - if muppets ike me don't stay here to fund all the lazy waster chavs, who will?

[Daniel davies]

all you need to do is click on this link

http://www.tvlicensing.biz/

Originally Posted by Chris T

I have emailed TV Licencing and challenged them to name the legislation that empowers them to require unlicenced homes to declare themselves. We shall see what they say when forced to speak in explicit terms instead of muddy statements that imply they have powers that I don't believe they have ....

A prompt and helpful reply to my email:

Thank you for your e-mail.

TV Licensing has a responsibility to ensure everyone who uses television equipment to receive or record television programmes is covered by the appropriate licence. Part of this process involves writing to and visiting addresses that are not covered by a valid television licence.

If someone genuinely does not use their television equipment to watch or record programmes, they will not need to hold a licence. However, to help us to avoid troubling the occupier with unnecessary enquiries, we can update our records to show that this is the case. We will need the address and postcode of the property to enable us to do this.

I trust this clarifies the situation for you.

So, from the horse's mouth. If you don't receive TV broadcasts, you don't need a licence and you don't need to tell TV licencing anything.

Some on you should really see the type of programming countrys in europe show. Anything NEAR the quality of the BBC is no where to be seen. In france there main channels all jostle for ratings by showning the lowest programs.

Any comedy programs are focused on the worst type of cheap comedy. Current affiers comedy is reducing to people wearning masks of famous people and putting on funny voices (really! and this program is very popular). The news is VERY anti-american, they always refer to the iraqi war as 'ilegal' and so on. They also show a lot of items about englush yobbishness. They present some storys as the sun would here. Over there it is a FACT that the war was for oil and that blair did it to suck up to america. This isnt presented as a opinion. its news. While they dont focus that in the last election they had a choice between a nazi and a crook.

Drama over there is about the same as a soap here. Eastenders would be seen as a very good drama there (and eastenders is awful!). ALso forget about doucmentrys getting anywhere near the big channels (unless its a negative story about briten and america or a postive story aboout france!). Horzion, newnight? No chance, they just do not have that sort of programming. Its too heavy and requires too much attentsion for them.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Because I was born here, so was my father, so was his. Why should I have to leave a country that I've worked ghard and paid my way in. And lets face it - if muppets ike me don't stay here to fund all the lazy waster chavs, who will?

Don't get mad with the Beeb, get mad with tax avoiders - estimated cost to the nation of £25bn a year!! (those familiar with my posts will know this is one of my favourite statistics though nobody ever seems to want to acknowledge it. C'est la vie!).


Edit: Oh and my partner works with disadvantaged youth. Try getting by on what they do. Now that is a tough life.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Frankly, yes. A grand a month I think is plenty to involuntarily contribute. I work my arse of at two jobs, have never been unemployed or claimed benefit, yet I get jack ***** out of the state. I'm ******ed off with funding other peoples wants and needs.

Fine, but as an example I hope you never have children. Some of my tax contributions will have to go towards paying for their education. I`m never going to have children, so why should I pay towards your's should you have them?

A lot of countrys still have a licence fee but dont have channels like the BBC!

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

Fine, but as an example I hope you never have children. Some of my tax contributions will have to go towards paying for their education. I`m never going to have children, so why should I pay towards your's should you have them?

Difference is I work and have contributed to the country education system for 13 years. So effectively, I've paid for my childs education before it's even born. Although if standards of schools stay as they are, I'll being paying for that out of my own pocket too, and sending them private.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Difference is I work and have contributed to the country education system for 13 years. So effectively, I've paid for my childs education before it's even born. Although if standards of schools stay as they are, I'll being paying for that out of my own pocket too, and sending them private.

No, you have paid for an element of your child's education. I sincerely doubt your tax contributions will fully cover the costs when you factor in that only a small part of your tax contributions will be going to education. How about if you need medical treatment that costs more than the NI contributions that you have made? Are you going to top that up with your own money? I strongly suspect the answer is no.

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Damien

Drama over there is about the same as a soap here. Eastenders would be seen as a very good drama there ([i]and eastenders is awful!).

Hmm 24, ER, West Wing, CSI .. the list is pretty extensive (even compared to the BBC)

I was talking about french tv. American TV does come up with some good dramas. Although (unlike the bbc) they are spread across many channels.

I challenge you to find one company that has producing as much good tv as the bbc

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Bifta

Hmm 24, ER, West Wing, CSI .. the list is pretty extensive (even compared to the BBC)

Hardly fair to compare the output of multiple companies to one. Bear in mind that due to the amount of TV the Americans produce, they are bound to produce at least some good shows. Hollywood does produce tens of thousands of hours of TV a week. Bear in mind that generally, we only see the better ones.