05-01-2013, 10:03
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Re: The Hobbit
Personally I preferred LOTR.. The hobbit was too linear in following the same group throughout most of the film, at least with LOTR it split into sub plots with the fellowship separating and being followed in their own stories. You can't fault the filming/fx but found myself wanting more side story than just following the group.
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05-01-2013, 10:17
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Re: The Hobbit
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Martipa (who does not like a lot of 3D) & I watched in the standard 3D format as this is all we get at our local Cineworld. Brilliant film, 3D used appropriately and the story flows brilliantly. So much so that even after 3 hours I would quite happily stayed and watched the next film. Son has seen it twice and he and my daughter are off to see it again on Wednesday.
Definitely does not feel stretched or padded, one particular significant section of the book even seemed shortened for the film. For me it felt like lessons learned in LOTR have been put to very good use in the Hobbit An Unexpected Journey. The pacing, characterisation and CGI work is cohesive, with Martin Freeman playing the younger Bilbo very well indeed.
Best film I have seen for a long time and I prefer this to LOTR.
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but there is the whole scene with Saruman and Galadriel and other bits added to add some sort of constancy with LOTR even Legolas is going to get some screen time . They have used Appendices and even parts of The Simarilian to turn a 2 movie story into 3 and whats with Azog? he was only mentioned in the book and was more of an appendage to LOTR where reference to the battle at Moria where some other Dwarf killed him. To me that whole role is just to fill out film one seeing as without there is not a main villian even though the necromancer who we never see is Sauron
Film 2 is The Desolation of Smaug so a lot has got to happen and I assume by the title we will see Smaugs death ( which was a bit of an anticlimax in the book) so Film 3 There and Back Again has the battle and then a bound to be drawn out epilogue I guess
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05-01-2013, 10:52
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Re: The Hobbit
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but there is the whole scene with Saruman and Galadriel and other bits added to add some sort of constancy with LOTR even Legolas is going to get some screen time . They have used Appendices and even parts of The Simarilian to turn a 2 movie story into 3 and whats with Azog? he was only mentioned in the book and was more of an appendage to LOTR where reference to the battle at Moria where some other Dwarf killed him. To me that whole role is just to fill out film one seeing as without there is not a main villian even though the necromancer who we never see is Sauron
Film 2 is The Desolation of Smaug so a lot has got to happen and I assume by the title we will see Smaugs death ( which was a bit of an anticlimax in the book) so Film 3 There and Back Again has the battle and then a bound to be drawn out epilogue I guess
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Perhaps it may include the bit with Tom Bombadil which might fit better in these films.
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05-01-2013, 11:04
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Re: The Hobbit
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Perhaps it may include the bit with Tom Bombadil which might fit better in these films.
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its possible
I did not even mention Radagast look at the role he has in TUJ he was mentioned once in the book. Ironically we didn't see him in LOTR even though he aided Saruman by getting Gandalf into the tower
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05-01-2013, 11:15
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Re: The Hobbit
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Perhaps it may include the bit with Tom Bombadil which might fit better in these films.
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wouldn't work ,apart from it being the wrong book Bilbo never met Bombadil
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05-01-2013, 11:17
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wouldn't work ,apart from it being the wrong book Bilbo never met Bombadil
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He didn't meet Radagast either until the film lol
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05-01-2013, 11:33
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Re: The Hobbit
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He didn't meet Radagast either until the film lol
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Personally i think the 3rd book will build on the rise of the necromancer/sauron and his return to Mordor ,also there is scope to cover the change that happened to Saruman ,This is mostly covered in the appendices and happened after Bilbo returned home so this would make a direct link to the LOTR and mesh them quite nicely into a continuous story .
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05-01-2013, 13:04
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Re: The Hobbit
Back when this was going to be just two films, the second was going to be a "bridge" between The Hobbit and LOTR.
Although they don't have the rights to The Simarillion or the Lost Tales, there's a lot of material in the Appendices (which they do have the rights for), plus there are things in the book that IIRC were briefly mentioned but have been fleshed out in the film (e.g. Gandalf going off on wizard business becomes Gandalf meeting up with Saruman etc.).
Perhaps it would have been better if it wasn't called "The Hobbit", but instead was "Chronicles of Middle-earth part 1: The Hobbit", or something like that, given that it's not simply that one book being adapted into three films.
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Oh. I saw it last night. Loved it. I prefer the previous films, but I thought it was still very good.
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05-01-2013, 13:06
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Re: The Hobbit
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Personally i think the 3rd book will build on the rise of the necromancer/sauron and his return to Mordor ,also there is scope to cover the change that happened to Saruman ,This is mostly covered in the appendices and happened after Bilbo returned home so this would make a direct link to the LOTR and mesh them quite nicely into a continuous story .
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makes sense cuz it would also give us a reason to know Radagast
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25-01-2013, 12:19
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Re: The Hobbit
Smaug among most anticipated in 2013.
http://the-hobbit-movie.com/2013/01/...pated-in-2013/
Yes l am certainly looking forward to the next instalment.
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01-03-2013, 16:32
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06-03-2013, 12:47
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Re: The Hobbit
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Yes that's a impressive take and yes indeed bring on the next one.
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06-03-2013, 13:39
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Re: The Hobbit
Hopefully the next one will be better. It reminded me of the Harry Potters, way too long and when you've finished watching it and then try to sum it all up and you come to the conclusion of 'not a lot'. If someone asked me what it's about and what happened I'd struggle to say more than a couple of sentances, not good for a near 3 hour film.
And the effect were quite ropey at best. Quite disappointing really.
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06-03-2013, 14:42
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Re: The Hobbit
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Hopefully the next one will be better. It reminded me of the Harry Potters, way too long and when you've finished watching it and then try to sum it all up and you come to the conclusion of 'not a lot'. If someone asked me what it's about and what happened I'd struggle to say more than a couple of sentances, not good for a near 3 hour film.
And the effect were quite ropey at best. Quite disappointing really.
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have you seen a different version of this film? In 48FPS 3D the CGI was absolutely incredible,state of the Art.a watershed moment,really. What didn't you like about the FX?
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