The Suffolk 'Ripper' - Page 8

Julian · 24-12-2006, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring

In today's Mirror, there is a complete description of a ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£40 sex session with Tom Stevens, the prostitute "protector". How low can a newspaper go?

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How low can a "newspaper" go, try that piece of **** the news of the world. an interview with the mother of the accused man with all sorts of innuendos and allegations. This nonsense has got to be stopped.

punky · 24-12-2006, 13:25

Well, it means people get a bit of money out of it, and people want to read it, so its hard to see how it will be stopped really. The benefits of printing it and newspaper sales outweigh the odd libel allegation/fine

Julian · 24-12-2006, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Well, it means people get a bit of money out of it, and people want to read it, so its hard to see how it will be stopped really. The benefits of printing it and newspaper sales outweigh the odd libel allegation/fine

I hear what you are saying Gavin, but perhaps when a case becomes untriable because of media behaviour, action will be taken.

TheDaddy · 24-12-2006, 13:51

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Well, it means people get a bit of money out of it, and people want to read it, so its hard to see how it will be stopped really. The benefits of printing it and newspaper sales outweigh the odd libel allegation/fine

Perhaps the public need to take more responsibility to stop this tacky reporting, it worked in Liverpool with The Sun

24-12-2006, 13:58

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Well, it means people get a bit of money out of it, and people want to read it, so its hard to see how it will be stopped really. The benefits of printing it and newspaper sales outweigh the odd libel allegation/fine

And there lies the problem...

Maybe the fine should heavily outweigh sales.
It should be about morals not money !!!!

etccarmageddon · 24-12-2006, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring

In today's Mirror, there is a complete description of a ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£40 sex session with Tom Stevens, the prostitute "protector". How low can a newspaper go?

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yeah 2 innocent men are having their lives destroyed. shouldnt there be reporting standards/restrictions for cases like this?

24-12-2006, 14:10

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

yeah 2 innocent men are having their lives destroyed. shouldnt there be reporting standards/restrictions for cases like this?

Ofcourse, but who released the names in the first place?
Justice by media? there may be some weight in that sentiment, however, it was the police who named the men being held on " suspicion " since when does suspicion constitute guilt?

etccarmageddon · 24-12-2006, 15:10

I agree with you but whether the names are released (or not) there should be reporting restrictions backed by law which prevent people's privacy being invaded like this.

It's likely that at least 1 of these 2 men has had their private life opened for public scrutiny despite being completely innocent. Unless it turns out both men are charged and convicted.

Escapee · 24-12-2006, 15:12

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

yeah 2 innocent men are having their lives destroyed. shouldnt there be reporting standards/restrictions for cases like this?

We dont actually know if they are innocent yet, so that statement may not be true.

It is however impossible to hide the names of people involved in a high profile crime like this. If for example there was 5 prostitutes killed in Pontypool and a huge police presence turned up at my house, along with a statement from the police saying thy have arrested someone, the neighbours would be silly not to put 2 and 2 together.

No matter what reporting restrictions are in place, word of mouth and email would soon get the name around.

Virgin Mary · 24-12-2006, 15:28

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Originally Posted by Escapee

We dont actually know if they are innocent yet, so that statement may not be true.

It is however impossible to hide the names of people involved in a high profile crime like this. If for example there was 5 prostitutes killed in Pontypool and a huge police presence turned up at my house, along with a statement from the police saying thy have arrested someone, the neighbours would be silly not to put 2 and 2 together.

No matter what reporting restrictions are in place, word of mouth and email would soon get the name around.

True, it happened to Cashley Cole, despite the injunction, the flashing photo of hime with a DJ was everywhere.

In the other hand, the injunction has worked well for Maxine Carr, Venables and Thomson (only minor leaks).

punky · 24-12-2006, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Sunday Mirror

He'd picked me and a friend up in his car and asked us to pretend to be lesbians while he pleasured himself.

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Originally Posted by Sunday Mirror

"There wasn't much foreplay. He put his hands on me and I started stroking him.

"After a few seconds he was aroused and he rolled on top of me and we started having sex. He was a little bit rough, but it was nothing I hadn't experienced before.

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Originally Posted by Sunday Mirror

"He undressed in the bedroom and took out a pink silk basque, black stockings and a pair of pink, glittery shoes with high heels.

I bet half of Ipswich are calling the police about the other half now

Virgin Mary · 24-12-2006, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Gavin

I bet half of Ipswich are calling the police about the other half now

Well, the Mirror paid the prostitute for the story, she needed the money, Mirror got few journos to spice it up, and voila, here is some soft porn for Sunday lunch...

I am confused: how a Tesco worker can afford 200 quid in shagging money per week, (40 quid at a time x 5)?

TheDaddy · 24-12-2006, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring

Well, the Mirror paid the prostitute for the story, she needed the money, Mirror got few journos to spice it up, and voila, here is some soft porn for Sunday lunch...

I am confused: how a Tesco worker can afford 200 quid in shagging money per week, (40 quid at a time x 5)?

Plenty of overtime presumably

etccarmageddon · 24-12-2006, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Escapee

We dont actually know if they are innocent yet, so that statement may not be true...

are they guilty until proven innocent?

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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring

...In the other hand, the injunction has worked well for Maxine Carr, Venables and Thomson (only minor leaks).

yes but they have all been convicted by a jury - these 2 blokes haven't had their moment in court yet.

Virgin Mary · 24-12-2006, 17:49

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

yes but they have all been convicted by a jury - these 2 blokes haven't had their moment in court yet.

I agree with you, what I am saying, if the injuction works for the guilty, then the police has to make sure it works for the innocent too... to me they are both innocent (until proven otherwise)