CableForum & NTL to meet - Page 8

scrotnig · 13-04-2005, 21:14

A lot of people have been leaned on heavily about not posting in here. Others heard about this and decided to pre empt it and stopped of their own accord.

Not saying this is what happened with Sam B, but it's a possibility.

Shaun · 13-04-2005, 21:27

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Originally Posted by scrotnig

A lot of people have been leaned on heavily about not posting in here. Others heard about this and decided to pre empt it and stopped of their own accord.

Not saying this is what happened with Sam B, but it's a possibility.

That's very true, some Ntl employees have actively tried to avoid being linked with the site (even very recently) which I guess we can understand.

Although I stand by my comment of once bitten twice shy I'd still not discourage anyone from trying to get Ntl to play ball.
I would however urge caution in dealings with them, those that were here before (and had some dealings with them over the collapse of .com and the forceful removal of Frank as the data controller) need them to prove themselves before we're going pop the champaign.

Chrysalis · 13-04-2005, 22:39

you cant expect people to sit down and think all the problems are over after this meeting.

Its up to simon duffy to prove all us doubters wrong and go ahead with these proposed plans and expect opposition on this forum, its no easy task and people will challenge and doubt whats going on its the result of whats going on now and in the past few years.

Seti · 14-04-2005, 00:38

I was a member of the old nthellworld forum and also very privileged to be a member here. I can remember the consoltations that all the forum members were privvy to and also I remember Frank, mainly becasue he refused to take any money from me. Frank is a wonderful guy as are the other administrators and moderators here.

It did leave a very sour taste in a lot of peoples' mouths.

That being said, I think to progress and if NTL are willing to listen and act then meetings and finding a way forward is no bad thing. I realise lessons can be learnt from the past but maybe this time NTL may have learnt from them too. Who knows ?

Let's see what it brings. Communication in whatever form is surely a good thing and with their customer services in a huge mess things could improve.

Sian

**Mick** · 14-04-2005, 01:18

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

you cant expect people to sit down and think all the problems are over after this meeting.

Sorry, that expectation has not been said anywhere in this thread that I can see.

kronas · 14-04-2005, 02:03

im going to have to agree with mick here... NTL need to be given another chance, not just because of their past failings but you have to remember why this site is here and i do believe that the admins/mods/site owner will not bow to any form of pressure from NTL, from what i gather for a 'first meeting' with CF it was a very welcomed attitude by both sides, it gave peter and simon a chance to voice their side of the argument, we now know that consolidation within the company was done so to protect its interests to save funds and produce better customer service, coupled with the migration of billing systems its been a informative excercise im not quite sure what peter and simon will do in the future but its a start.

i know in the past NTL have shown interest and played a politics game with the nthellworld.com site but we must realise that fighting NTL maybe a long term battle and not something that will happen over night, the consumer must stand up to be listened to not drudge up the past to reflect on the negative side!

remember how.com was such a thorn on NTL's side ? why do you think they were keen to gain ownership because it was just that a very bad PR attitude for them!

dexter_k · 14-04-2005, 06:31

Speaking as an associate, its refreshing to hear such positiveness in terms of the future. I will be feeding this back to my team that theres is a hope amongst customers.

Mick and Nemesis, i'm sure you guys did yourself and CF credit with Peter and Simon. I met them the same day and they're not the blood sucking money men I thought they were gonna be. They were really nice guys. Maybe you'll agree, maybe you wont

Stuart · 14-04-2005, 08:59

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

you cant expect people to sit down and think all the problems are over after this meeting.

Its up to simon duffy to prove all us doubters wrong and go ahead with these proposed plans and expect opposition on this forum, its no easy task and people will challenge and doubt whats going on its the result of whats going on now and in the past few years.

As the old saying goes, even the longest journey starts with a single step. This is a single step, and I hope it can be a significant one.

ntluser · 14-04-2005, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Mick

That would be opening your eyes and looking at the past Neil, like I said we should be thinking forwards, not backwards all the time.

If NTL want to be involved with Cableforum in a positive way, fair enough, just so long as we are aware of what they are capable of and we ensure that we don't wake up one morning to find Cableforum gone or neutered in some way.

Thinking forwards is OK, but bear in mind that when you drive a car you are looking and thinking forwards but you still have a rear view mirror.

Looking backwards from time to time isn't a bad thing as it allows you to see where you've been and is also useful for avoiding being stabbed in the back.

It's possible to be positive, hopeful and realistic by looking forwards but peeping over your shoulder from time to time to see what's going on behind your back!!

I shall watch this thread with great interest.

Escapee · 14-04-2005, 10:12

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Originally Posted by ntluser

If NTL want to be involved with Cableforum in a positive way, fair enough, just so long as we are aware of what they are capable of and we ensure that we don't wake up one morning to find Cableforum gone or neutered in some way.

Thinking forwards is OK, but bear in mind that when you drive a car you are looking and thinking forwards but you still have a rear view mirror.

Looking backwards from time to time isn't a bad thing as it allows you to see where you've been and is also useful for avoiding being stabbed in the back.

It's possible to be positive, hopeful and realistic by looking forwards but peeping over your shoulder from time to time to see what's going on behind your back!!

I shall watch this thread with great interest.

And many of us know the top level management "may" want to form a relationship, and have good intentions with talks. The problems start with lower tiers of management, who are not as enthusiastic and dont really want the bother.

orangebird · 14-04-2005, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I've been at ntl long enough to know that nothing will come of this.

If I am proven wrong, I'll show my Ar*se on Hook building 270 steps (just in front of Duffys Bentley)

I'll join you. Draped across the bonnet of the bentley...

Nemesis · 14-04-2005, 11:22

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Originally Posted by orangebird

I'll join you. Draped across the bonnet of the bentley...

I'll be there in 10 minutes

Russ · 14-04-2005, 11:23

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Originally Posted by orangebird

I'll join you. Draped across the bonnet of the bentley...

*sets up camera*

ian@huth · 14-04-2005, 11:25

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Originally Posted by orangebird

I'll join you. Draped across the bonnet of the bentley...

The Register headlines.

Over 8,000 cableforum members and several thousand guests slow down the mapquest site looking for driving directions to Hook.

Sales of digital cameras and binoculars shoot up rapidly on the Amazon site earning a fortune in commission for Cableforum.

Nemesis · 14-04-2005, 11:27

... and Simon Duffy is wondering what is so fascinating about his car ....