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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Not at all timed to distract from recent headlines about him, honest!
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No, I don't think so as it's been said behind closed doors.
I think it's been said to convince the donors that their money won't be wasted as Reform will get in power whether it's through a merger with the Conservative Party or through an electoral alliance with them.
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Today, 12:57
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Anything could happen. The public are a fickle challenge for all parties and where we are now with their preferences may not be at thew next GE.
Farage is amassing some Tory talent and that needs to be translated into public messaging. Kemi is much of the same one-man-band nature for the Tories as Farage currently is for Reform UK.
But at the GE you could imagine that if the Tory front bench remains the same, all the other parties will be tearing into the Torties for parading the losers who screwed us over back then.
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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You can always tell when something is scaring the shite out of present Governments, and the institutions that hang on to their coat tails, by the ever increasing lengths of desperation they turn to in order to paint them in a bad light.
Dragging stuff up that's probably 45 years old, from back in the days when we had blackboards at school, when a gollywog was a kids doll, and when parents and teachers actually had the sense to punish naughty disruptive children.
It's all heading the same way as the run up to Brexit, keep attacking it by any and all means possible, while telling people they must be stupid uneducated mouth breathing morons to even consider voting for it. Didn't that go well 
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Yes, in the 70s saying to your Jewish classmates ’gas them all’ was just like using the word blackboard…
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Yes, in the 70s saying to your Jewish classmates ’gas them all’ was just like using the word blackboard…
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I seem to remember us kids saying, and doing, lots of stuff in the late 60's early 70's.
Thankfully the justice system and law courts wouldn't be able to cope if it all got brought back up, however a bit of mud slinging at a 'person of interest' goes a long way in the media
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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I seem to remember us kids saying, and doing, lots of stuff in the late 60's early 70's.
Thankfully the justice system and law courts wouldn't be able to cope if it all got brought back up, however a bit of mud slinging at a 'person of interest' goes a long way in the media 
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It's only right that politicians are held to account for their actions. Farage has traditionally been given plenty of platform time and little scrutiny. That's now starting to change and rightly so.
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Originally Posted by Carth
I seem to remember us kids saying, and doing, lots of stuff in the late 60's early 70's.
Thankfully the justice system and law courts wouldn't be able to cope if it all got brought back up, however a bit of mud slinging at a 'person of interest' goes a long way in the media 
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Pretty sure I never went up to my Jewish school friends and said "gas them all", or to the Black and Asian ones saying "send them home"…
Did you?
There’s a huge difference between playground banter and racism…
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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It's only right that politicians are held to account for their actions. Farage has traditionally been given plenty of platform time and little scrutiny. That's now starting to change and rightly so.
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What, when he was a kid? Do come off it, you are as bad as they are, making up stupid stuff.
The point is, he has a set of policies that none of the other parties like, but they know this is really what most people want. That, and nothing else, is the issue, and not what Farage did when he was a mischievous youngster (if indeed that is even true - people will say anything these days).
As for scrutiny, you will find regular press conferences given by Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf, when the press have plenty of opportunity to quiz them over their policies and their personal convictions. Watch them on YouTube. The fact that you don’t hear much about it is because the mass media and the opposition politicians want to shut them up. So they just sling mud and make false accusations.
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Pretty sure I never went up to my Jewish school friends and said "gas them all", or to the Black and Asian ones saying "send them home"…
Did you?
There’s a huge difference between playground banter and racism…
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Nor did Farage, according to Farage. People making allegations does not make it true.
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Today, 21:52
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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There’s a huge difference between playground banter and racism…
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Not Really.
Pretty sure some banter when I was a kid would be classed as "racism" now.
There is also a big difference between proven facts and unproven accusations.
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