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		|  26-08-2022, 15:41 | #1051 |  
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			I don’t think it’s necessarily an anti-Government position to think there should be something more comprehensive announced earlier. Consumer confidence (to the extent that exists at all any more) relies upon certainty, or at least a strong belief that something will happen. Otherwise people will be planning ahead to the extent they can, crushing discretionary spend in the economy and the industries that rely upon it until people know what will be affordable for them.
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		|  26-08-2022, 15:46 | #1052 |  
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					Originally Posted by jfman  I don’t think it’s necessarily an anti-Government position to think there should be something more comprehensive announced earlier. Consumer confidence (to the extent that exists at all any more) relies upon certainty, or at least a strong belief that something will happen. Otherwise people will be planning ahead to the extent they can, crushing discretionary spend in the economy and the industries that rely upon it until people know what will be affordable for them. |  BBBUT  having a prime minister in place  to run the country and make these decisions  wasn't as important as revenge for a slice of cake, you can't have your cake revenge and eat it.
		 
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		|  26-08-2022, 15:53 | #1053 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  BBBUT  having a prime minister in place  to run the country and make these decisions  wasn't as important as revenge for a slice of cake, you can't have your cake revenge and eat it. |  Why not?
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		|  26-08-2022, 15:55 | #1054 |  
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			There is a PM. Just because he's checked out in a massive sulk doesn't mean he isn't PM. If he had any sense of public duty he would do his job until it's finished.
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		|  26-08-2022, 15:56 | #1055 |  
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					Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth  Why not? |  His authority is gone, unless someone declares war on us. 
still well done all the moaners and whiners you got rid of him enjoy the benefits
		 
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:05 | #1056 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  His authority is gone, unless someone declares war on us.still well done all the moaners and whiners you got rid of him enjoy the benefits
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:14 | #1057 |  
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			This kind of inaction and self-obsession is more proof it was right the Tories got rid of him.
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:17 | #1058 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  This kind of inaction and self-obsession is more proof it was right the Tories got rid of him. |  What exactly do you think he could do?
		 
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:18 | #1059 |  
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			Hard times for us all,   I feel sorry for people on Prepayment meters
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:21 | #1060 |  
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					Originally Posted by nashville  Hard times for us all,   I feel sorry for people on Prepayment meters |  Smart meters I agree. But I've topped up on gas before the 1st increase and it'll stay at the rate I paid for it till it runs out. Which should be about another 4 years or so.
		 
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:45 | #1061 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  His authority is gone, unless someone declares war on us.still well done all the moaners and whiners you got rid of him enjoy the benefits
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It was a Tory party coup, nothing more, nothing less.
		 
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:54 | #1062 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  What exactly do you think he could do? |  He could announce the next package of support and not worry that the new candidates would prefer to do it. He is the PM. He still has tools at his disposal.
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:55 | #1063 |  
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:55 | #1064 |  
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					Originally Posted by peanut  Smart meters I agree. But I've topped up on gas before the 1st increase and it'll stay at the rate I paid for it till it runs out. Which should be about another 4 years or so. |  Really? What kind of system is that? Usually most of these you're topping it with cash and it charges that amount by the cost of energy at the time of usage.
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		|  26-08-2022, 16:58 | #1065 |  
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					Originally Posted by Damien  Really? What kind of system is that? Usually most of these you're topping it with cash and it charges that amount by the cost of energy at the time of usage. |  That is how our smart meter works.
		 
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